<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks all for your efforts and comments ! <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That mapcomplete thing is great !! I didn’t know about it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And indeed, the completeness is much better than I thought. I’ll review that and will try to better document all those windmolen ;) Especially the height and power is important to differentiate industrial vs private machines.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think we have all we need to go further now. What should we do in order to motivate people to use it ?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks again</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Matthieu</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 16 juin 2021 à 22:46, Seppe Santens <<a href="mailto:seppe.santens@westtoer.be" class="">seppe.santens@westtoer.be</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">First draft:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://mapcomplete.osm.be/?userlayout=https:/raw.githubusercontent.com/seppesantens/MapComplete-Themes/main/OpenWindPowerMap/OpenWindPowerMap.json" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://mapcomplete.osm.be?userlayout=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/seppesantens/MapComplete-Themes/main/OpenWindPowerMap/OpenWindPowerMap.json</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Comments welcome! (including a better title fort his theme)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="NL" class="">Van:</span></b><span lang="NL" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Seppe Santens <<a href="mailto:seppe.santens@westtoer.be" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">seppe.santens@westtoer.be</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Verzonden:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>woensdag 16 juni 2021 17:25<br class=""><b class="">Aan:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>OpenStreetMap Belgium <<a href="mailto:talk-be@openstreetmap.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">talk-be@openstreetmap.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Onderwerp:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [OSM-talk-be] Missing windmills data ?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left" width="100%" style="width: 692px; border: 1pt outset rgb(145, 10, 25);"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td width="100%" style="width: 670px; border: 1pt inset rgb(145, 10, 25); background-color: rgb(253, 242, 244); padding: 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt 11.25pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif; color: rgb(145, 10, 25);" class="">AANDACHT :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class="">Dit bericht is afkomstig van een afzender buiten onze organisatie met een gelijkaardige weergavenaam. Klik niet op hyperlinks en open geen bijlages tenzij je de afzender kent en je zeker bent dat de inhoud veilig is.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif; color: rgb(145, 10, 25);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></b></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">I’m willing to give it (the MapComplete theme) a shot<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Seppe<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="NL" class="">Van:</span></b><span lang="NL" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>joost schouppe <<a href="mailto:joost.schouppe@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">joost.schouppe@gmail.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Verzonden:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>woensdag 16 juni 2021 9:57<br class=""><b class="">Aan:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>OpenStreetMap Belgium <<a href="mailto:talk-be@openstreetmap.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">talk-be@openstreetmap.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Onderwerp:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [OSM-talk-be] Missing windmills data ?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Colleagues of mine did an analysis of wind generators in the province of Antwerp, and found that OpenStreetMap had only two or three errors (one removed, two missing IIRC) when reviewed in detail.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">In Flanders, we have gotten pretty good response from municipalities when using the MapComplete platform. Maybe we could make a wind generator theme and ask municipalities to check and complete the data?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Op di 15 jun. 2021 om 19:33 schreef Matthieu Gaillet <<a href="mailto:matthieu@gaillet.be" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">matthieu@gaillet.be</a>>:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Salut,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">J’ai récemment lu dans ce papier qu’aucune donnée précise n’était disponible sur le nombre d’éoliennes en Wallonie. <a href="https://plus.lesoir.be/378347/article/2021-06-15/eoliennes-les-communes-wallonnes-au-bord-de-la-crise-de-nerfs" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://plus.lesoir.be/378347/article/2021-06-15/eoliennes-les-communes-wallonnes-au-bord-de-la-crise-de-nerfs</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Ne serait-ce pas l’occasion de mettre la communauté à l’œuvre ?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Premièrement, remonter localisation des parcs éoliens<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Deuxièmement, faire un relevé sur place<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Troisièmement réunir des informations plus précises sur les hauteurs et les puissances. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Les communes disposent généralement de ces informations, à priori on pourrait les obtenir sur simple demande. Parfois c’est même décrit sur un panneau informatif. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">En bonus il reste à relever les éoliennes privées, surtout celles autour des exploitations agricoles. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Qu’en pensez-vous ? Comment démarrer ce genre de community-assisted survey ?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">L’état des lieux : <a href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/18oI" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/18oI</a> - Je vois déjà que le parc sur Assesse est manquant. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Matthieu<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Matthieu G. (en mode mobile)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Matthieu G. 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