<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Mathieu,</div><div><br></div><div>I made a little wiki page to coordinate the efforts:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/wind_turbines">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/wind_turbines</a></div><div><br></div><div>I have some ideas for Flanders - and we were already contacted by someone working at a company that might have data to contribute. In Wallonia perhaps it makes sense to ask the municipalities? In that case, we should definitely work on a standard mail and some basic instructions.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Joost<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op ma 21 jun. 2021 om 21:10 schreef Matthieu Gaillet <<a href="mailto:matthieu@gaillet.be">matthieu@gaillet.be</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Thanks all for your efforts and comments ! <div><br></div><div>That mapcomplete thing is great !! I didn’t know about it.</div><div><br></div><div>And indeed, the completeness is much better than I thought. I’ll review that and will try to better document all those windmolen ;) Especially the height and power is important to differentiate industrial vs private machines.</div><div><br></div><div>I think we have all we need to go further now. What should we do in order to motivate people to use it ?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again</div><div><br></div><div>Matthieu</div><div><br></div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Le 16 juin 2021 à 22:46, Seppe Santens <<a href="mailto:seppe.santens@westtoer.be" target="_blank">seppe.santens@westtoer.be</a>> a écrit :</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">First draft:<span> </span><a href="https://mapcomplete.osm.be/?userlayout=https:/raw.githubusercontent.com/seppesantens/MapComplete-Themes/main/OpenWindPowerMap/OpenWindPowerMap.json" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://mapcomplete.osm.be?userlayout=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/seppesantens/MapComplete-Themes/main/OpenWindPowerMap/OpenWindPowerMap.json</a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Comments welcome! (including a better title fort his theme)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="NL">Van:</span></b><span lang="NL"><span> </span>Seppe Santens <<a href="mailto:seppe.santens@westtoer.be" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">seppe.santens@westtoer.be</a>><span> </span><br><b>Verzonden:</b><span> </span>woensdag 16 juni 2021 17:25<br><b>Aan:</b><span> </span>OpenStreetMap Belgium <<a href="mailto:talk-be@openstreetmap.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">talk-be@openstreetmap.org</a>><br><b>Onderwerp:</b><span> </span>Re: [OSM-talk-be] Missing windmills data ?<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><table style="width:692px;border:1pt outset rgb(145,10,25)" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="1" align="left"><tbody><tr><td style="width:670px;border:1pt inset rgb(145,10,25);background-color:rgb(253,242,244);padding:5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt 11.25pt" width="100%"><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:rgb(145,10,25)">AANDACHT :<span> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33)">Dit bericht is afkomstig van een afzender buiten onze organisatie met een gelijkaardige weergavenaam. Klik niet op hyperlinks en open geen bijlages tenzij je de afzender kent en je zeker bent dat de inhoud veilig is.<span> </span></span><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:rgb(145,10,25)"><u></u><u></u></span></b></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I’m willing to give it (the MapComplete theme) a shot<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Seppe<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="NL">Van:</span></b><span lang="NL"><span> </span>joost schouppe <<a href="mailto:joost.schouppe@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">joost.schouppe@gmail.com</a>><span> </span><br><b>Verzonden:</b><span> </span>woensdag 16 juni 2021 9:57<br><b>Aan:</b><span> </span>OpenStreetMap Belgium <<a href="mailto:talk-be@openstreetmap.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">talk-be@openstreetmap.org</a>><br><b>Onderwerp:</b><span> </span>Re: [OSM-talk-be] Missing windmills data ?<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hi,<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Colleagues of mine did an analysis of wind generators in the province of Antwerp, and found that OpenStreetMap had only two or three errors (one removed, two missing IIRC) when reviewed in detail.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">In Flanders, we have gotten pretty good response from municipalities when using the MapComplete platform. Maybe we could make a wind generator theme and ask municipalities to check and complete the data?<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Op di 15 jun. 2021 om 19:33 schreef Matthieu Gaillet <<a href="mailto:matthieu@gaillet.be" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">matthieu@gaillet.be</a>>:<u></u><u></u></div></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Salut,<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">J’ai récemment lu dans ce papier qu’aucune donnée précise n’était disponible sur le nombre d’éoliennes en Wallonie. <a href="https://plus.lesoir.be/378347/article/2021-06-15/eoliennes-les-communes-wallonnes-au-bord-de-la-crise-de-nerfs" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://plus.lesoir.be/378347/article/2021-06-15/eoliennes-les-communes-wallonnes-au-bord-de-la-crise-de-nerfs</a><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Ne serait-ce pas l’occasion de mettre la communauté à l’œuvre ?<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Premièrement, remonter localisation des parcs éoliens<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Deuxièmement, faire un relevé sur place<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Troisièmement réunir des informations plus précises sur les hauteurs et les puissances. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-se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