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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Joost,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Really nice that new mappers are given a warm welcome on OSM (thanks Jakka for all the hours you put in!!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Indeed not easy to give the most important tips in a short text, as it all depends on what someone wants to map. I think the current selection is
a good one. I have some minor suggestions about the wording:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">editors
</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">→</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> editing tools (to avoid confusion between people and software)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">highways
</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">→</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> roads (and/or explain that we use the key “highway” for all roads,
although beginning mappers often won’t see the actual key/value pairs)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">newbies
</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">→</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> new mappers (or am I too politically correct here?)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">About the wiki page for ‘new mappers’ :-)
</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">→</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> I think it’s good to list common pitfalls for beginning mappers,
but we should try to avoid repeating too much of the information that is already in the wiki. It would be good to make that information is easier to find (e.g. through the new mappers page) and make the existing information itself also ‘beginner friendly’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Seppe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="NL">Van:</span></b><span lang="NL"> joost schouppe <joost.schouppe@gmail.com>
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<b>Verzonden:</b> zondag 21 november 2021 15:10<br>
<b>Aan:</b> OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> [OSM-talk-be] welcoming new mappers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(NL - FR below)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As you may be aware, we have been sending new mappers in Belgium a welcome message for many years. In the first place: thank you Jakka for sending almost all of them, and thank you m!dgard for building the tool.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That tool has been rebuilt now by Jonathan Beliën - and it is now going global! Have a look at
<a href="https://welcome.osm.be/">https://welcome.osm.be/</a> for the countries and regions that have already joined over the past few weeks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Because of the re-launch, I was looking at the welcome message itself and I thought I'd bring it up to date.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The current version is at <a href="https://github.com/osmbe/osm-welcome-tool/blob/2.x/templates/messages/belgium/en/default.md">
https://github.com/osmbe/osm-welcome-tool/blob/2.x/templates/messages/belgium/en/default.md</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A draft new version is here:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://hackmd.io/zzLQaWWPRq-ZukWZpVoEug?view">https://hackmd.io/zzLQaWWPRq-ZukWZpVoEug?view</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What do you think? I'm especially interested in what would be the most important tips to give new mappers. There are waaaay too much to add ALL of them to the message itself, so the link also contains a draft for a wiki page with more hints
and info for new mappers in Belgium. Feel free to make the long list longer, and give suggestions for what should definitely be in the message itself.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would like to finish the English version first; afterwards we'll translate to NL and FR.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Zoals je misschien weet, sturen we al vele jaren nieuwe mappers in België een welkomstbericht. In de eerste plaats: dank je wel Jakka voor het sturen van bijna al die nieuwe mappers, en dank je wel m!dgard voor het bouwen van de tool.<br>
Die tool is nu herbouwd door Jonathan Beliën - en hij gaat nu de hele wereld over! Kijk op
<a href="https://welcome.osm.be/">https://welcome.osm.be/</a> voor de landen en regio's die zich de afgelopen weken al hebben aangesloten.<br>
In verband met de herlancering heb ik eens gekeken naar het welkomstbericht zelf en ik dacht dat ik dat maar eens moest actualiseren. De huidige versie staat op
<a href="https://github.com/osmbe/osm-welcome-tool/blob/2.x/templates/messages/belgium/en/default.md">
https://github.com/osmbe/osm-welcome-tool/blob/2.x/templates/messages/belgium/en/default.md</a><br>
Een ontwerp voor een nieuwe versie staat hier:<a href="https://hackmd.io/zzLQaWWPRq-ZukWZpVoEug?view">https://hackmd.io/zzLQaWWPRq-ZukWZpVoEug?view</a><br>
Wat vindt u ervan? Ik ben vooral geïnteresseerd in wat de belangrijkste tips zouden zijn om nieuwe mappers te geven. Er zijn er veel te veel om ze allemaal in het bericht zelf te zetten, dus de link bevat ook een ontwerp voor een wiki pagina met meer hints
en info voor nieuwe mappers in België. Voel je vrij om de lange lijst langer te maken, en suggesties te geven voor wat zeker in het bericht zelf moet staan.<br>
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Ik zou graag eerst de Engelse versie afwerken; daarna zullen we vertalen naar NL en FR.<br>
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Vertaald met <a href="http://www.DeepL.com/Translator">www.DeepL.com/Translator</a> (gratis versie)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Comme vous le savez peut-être, nous envoyons depuis plusieurs années un message de bienvenue aux nouveaux mappeurs en Belgique. Tout d'abord, merci à Jakka de les avoir presque tous envoyés, et merci à m!dgard d'avoir construit l'outil.<br>
Cet outil a été reconstruit par Jonathan Beliën - et il est en train de devenir mondial ! Consultez le site
<a href="https://welcome.osm.be/">https://welcome.osm.be/</a> pour connaître les pays et régions qui ont déjà adhéré au cours des dernières semaines.<br>
En raison de la relance, j'ai examiné le message de bienvenue lui-même et j'ai pensé le mettre à jour. La version actuelle se trouve à l'adresse
<a href="https://github.com/osmbe/osm-welcome-tool/blob/2.x/templates/messages/belgium/en/default.md">
https://github.com/osmbe/osm-welcome-tool/blob/2.x/templates/messages/belgium/en/default.md</a>.<br>
Un projet de nouvelle version se trouve ici : <a href="https://hackmd.io/zzLQaWWPRq-ZukWZpVoEug?view">
https://hackmd.io/zzLQaWWPRq-ZukWZpVoEug?view</a><br>
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Je suis particulièrement intéressé par les conseils les plus importants à donner aux nouveaux mappeurs. Il y en a beaucoup trop pour tous les ajouter dans le message lui-même, donc le lien contient également un projet de page wiki avec plus
de conseils et d'informations pour les nouveaux mappeurs en Belgique. N'hésitez pas à allonger cette longue liste et à faire des suggestions sur ce qui devrait absolument figurer dans le message lui-même.<br>
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J'aimerais terminer la version anglaise en premier ; ensuite nous traduirons en NL et FR.<br>
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Traduit avec <a href="http://www.DeepL.com/Translator">www.DeepL.com/Translator</a> (version gratuite)<o:p></o:p></p>
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