<div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks for trying to sort this out :) </div><div>maybe once it's somewhat settled, we need to referenced that in the few pages speaking about school :)</div><div><br></div><div>- ok for the school:* 👌</div><div>- ok for the numbers although they are still, relatively low compared to kindergarten. Just the fact that it's not continuous with the rest of the curriculum, and that would make me prefer the school=elementary.</div><div>also it seems to me that it's somewhat ambiguous; and thus... how do you determine if the mapper choose as described in this page vs described in <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:school" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:school</a> for example?<br></div><div>and the EN wiki state : "for children up to the age of formal (often mandatory) school education", I would argue that the first two year of the elementary school are somewhat formal and the 3rd IS mandatory, so it would not qualify for this... <br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards, <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 at 17:52, Pieter Vander Vennet <<a href="mailto:pietervdvn@posteo.net" target="_blank">pietervdvn@posteo.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hello Brice,<br>
<br>
Yes, schools have been a mess within OSM. I've been doing my best
to clean this up as much as possible in the past weeks.<br>
<br>
- According to tag-info, there are very little 'school:be' and
'school:fr'-entries, we can safely ignore them.<br>
- Childcare has become an established tag with 40k entries
worldwide. A kindergarten has as defining feature that it offers
early education too<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Pieter<br>
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<div>On 21.06.22 23:41, Brice Maron wrote:<br>
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<div>Just chiming in.... <br>
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<div>I stumble upon this , and honestly i also find the
situation is a bit of a mess ATM between isced, school=,
amenity=... school:BE, school:FR (yes there are a few in
belgium), ...</div>
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<div>One thing i noticed is that you've noted <br>
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<div>amenity=kindergarten as kleuterschool/Maternelle .. my
understanding is that it was more like creche <br>
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<div>and childcare was kinda controversially rejected <br>
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<div>how do we stand with that?</div>
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<div>Anyway, thanks for the discussion<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 at 21:35,
Pieter Vander Vennet <<a href="mailto:pietervdvn@posteo.net" target="_blank">pietervdvn@posteo.net</a>>
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<p>Hi all,<br>
<br>
In the meantime, I did make an update to the tagging of
how we can map schools but also tertiary education
institutions.<br>
<br>
Furthermore, I also retagged all private playgrounds
within school boundaries to 'schoolyard', as this is more
appropriate.<br>
I'd love if you had a look in your area and would check
that <b>leisure=playground</b> within a school area is
effectively a (public) playground and not schoolyard
(speelplaats in Flemish).<br>
With this <a href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/?Q=%5Bout%3Axml%5D%5Btimeout%3A180%5D%3B%0Anwr%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22school%22%5D(%7B%7Bbbox%7D%7D)%3B%0Anode(w)%3B%0Ais_in%3B%0Aarea._%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22school%22%5D%3B%0A(nwr(area)%5B%22leisure%22%3D%22playground%22%5D%3B%20node(w)%3B)%3B%0A%0Aout%20meta%3B%0A%3E%3B%0Aout%20meta%20qt%3B&C=51.04431;3.76608;12" target="_blank">overpass-query</a>,
you can easily find them.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
Pieter<br>
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<div>On 14.06.22 18:13, Pieter Vander Vennet wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Hi all,<br>
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For my work, I'm attempting to get usable school data out
of OSM. Surprisingly, tagging for schools is pretty hard
to do as there is no decent tagging scheme for them.<br>
<br>
As school systems wildly vary across the world, it is at
this point near-impossible to come up with a global
tagging scheme.<br>
Instead, I'm setting up a tagging scheme for Belgium
alone.<br>
<br>
With this mailing, I'd like to open the discussion in
Belgium on how these can be tagged.<br>
<br>
Please, have a look <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Schools" target="_blank">at the relevant
wiki page</a> and join the discussion either there or on
this mailing list.<br>
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Furthermore, I'm also interested in how well such a theme
would work in other countries. Maybe a small tweak can
make this applicable e.g. in France, the Netherlands or
Germany too.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
Pieter<br>
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