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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=FR-BE link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Merci, c’est fait.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR>De :</span></b><span lang=FR> Matthieu Gaillet <matthieu@gaillet.be> <br><b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi 15 juillet 2022 06:50<br><b>À :</b> OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org><br><b>Cc :</b> francois.piette@overbyte.be<br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [OSM-talk-be] Comment mapper l'entrée d'un galerie d'exploration d'une ancienne carrière ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Les carrières (de cailloux) le sont toujours.<br>Il ne me semble pas y avoir de galeries pour exploitation de cailloux.<br>Seulement de charbon, minerai, pierres précieuses, ...<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ce n’est pas exact : les (anciennes) exploitations de marbre, de grès, de pierre bleue par exemple extraient la roche par minage. Le puits peut être vertical ou horizontal.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ici il est vrai qu’on a un mélange de carrière à ciel ouvert et de mine. Peut-être la partie à ciel ouvert est-elle plus récente ?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Ta galerie serait donc une mine.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>En effet, dans ce cas-ci je maperais un <i>adit</i> pour la galerie, <i>quarry</i> + <i>disused </i>pour les parties à nu du site et <i>water </i>pour le « lac » (qui n’est pas un lac puisque artificiel ni un étang car trop grand). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Exemples <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/50.5002/5.0722">carrières du Boltry et Cimetière</a> à Andenne.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Matthieu<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Le 15 juil. 2022 à 06:15, André Pirard <<a href="mailto:a.pirard.papou@gmail.com">a.pirard.papou@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On 14/07/22 21:49,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:francois.piette@overbyte.be"><span style='color:#0563C1'>francois.piette@overbyte.be</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bonjour,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Il y a là : N50.51332 E5.57969 l’entrée d’une galerie d’exploration (Enfin de crois que c’était son utilité) à l’ancienne carrière qui se trouvait quelques dizaines de mètres plus loin (Actuellement la carrière est devenue un lac). Cette galerie ne figure pas sur la carte et je voudrais l’ajouter. Je sais éditer la carte, mais je ne sais pas quel élément cartographique il faut utiliser (J’ai regardé là :<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:%C3%89l%C3%A9ments_cartographiques"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:%C3%89l%C3%A9ments_cartographiques</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>et je ne vois rien qui convienne).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Photo de l’entrée de la galerie :<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://fr.wikiloc.com/itineraires-randonnee/poulseur-les-carrieres-107815924/photo-69677192"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://fr.wikiloc.com/itineraires-randonnee/poulseur-les-carrieres-107815924/photo-69677192</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Cette photo est prise de la route. L’entrée est à une dizaine de mètres de la route.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Photo du lac de l’ancienne carrière :<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://fr.wikiloc.com/itineraires-randonnee/poulseur-les-carrieres-107815924/photo-69676973"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://fr.wikiloc.com/itineraires-randonnee/poulseur-les-carrieres-107815924/photo-69676973</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Cette photo est prise depuis le talus qui surplombe le lac, à moins de 50m de l’entrée de la galerie.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Merci d’avance,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>--</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>François Piette</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Salut François,<br><br>Comme l'anglophone qui te parle sait qu'une carrière s'appelle "quarry", j'ai effectué la recherche<br>"</span><a href="https://www.google.com/search?&q=openstreetmap+quarry"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>openstreetmap quarry</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>" qui me rafraîchit la mémoire.<br>Tu parles d'un lac<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>et</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>d'une galerie.<br>Pour le lac carrière, tu dois construire une aire étiquetée<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><tt><span style='color:black;background:#EEEEFF'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse" title="Key:landuse"><span style='color:#0563C1'>landuse</span></a>=quarry</span></tt><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>Tu peux ajouter<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><tt><span style='color:black;background:#EEEEFF'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:abandoned" title="Key:abandoned"><span style='color:#0563C1'>abandoned</span></a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:abandoned%3Dyes" title="Tag:abandoned=yes"><span style='color:#0563C1'>ye</span><span style='color:#0563C1'>s</span></a></span></tt><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;background:#EEEEFF'> </span></span><span class=mw-content-ltr><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black;background:#EEEEFF'>ou</span></span><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black;background:#EEEEFF'> </span></span><tt><span style='color:black;background:#EEEEFF'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:disused" title="Key:disused"><span style='color:#0563C1'>disused</span></a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:disused%3Dyes" title="Tag:disused=yes"><span style='color:#0563C1'>ye</span><span style='color:#0563C1'>s</span></a></span></tt><a href="x-msg://10/a" title="Tag:disused=yes"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>.</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>Ils disent que c'est pour des carrières à ciel ouvert.<br>Les carrières (de cailloux) le sont toujours.<br>Il ne me semble pas y avoir de galeries pour exploitation de cailloux.<br>Seulement de charbon, minerai, pierres précieuses, ...<br>Ta galerie serait donc une mine.<br>Dans l'</span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dquarry"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>article anglais</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>qui perle de carrières (tiens!), voir<br style='caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-variant-caps: normal;text-align:start;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Surface_Mining" title="Proposed features/Surface Mining"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Proposed features/Surface mining</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><tt><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black;background:#EEEEFF'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:industrial" title="Key:industrial"><span style='color:#0563C1'>industrial</span></a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:industrial%3Dmine" title="Tag:industrial=mine"><span style='color:#0563C1'>min</span><span style='color:#0563C1'>e</span></a></span></tt><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>For underground mining, see:<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><tt><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black;background:#EEEEFF'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:man_made" title="Key:man made"><span style='color:#0563C1'>man_made</span></a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dmineshaft" title="Tag:man made=mineshaft"><span style='color:#0563C1'>mineshaf</span><span style='color:#0563C1'>t</span></a></span></tt><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>- entrance to a vertical tunnel<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><tt><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black;background:#EEEEFF'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:man_made" title="Key:man made"><span style='color:#0563C1'>man_made</span></a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dadit" title="Tag:man made=adit"><span style='color:#0563C1'>adi</span><span style='color:#0563C1'>t</span></a></span></tt><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>- entrance to an underground mine which is horizontal or nearly horizontal<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Voilà. Mélange tout ça.<br>Bon plaisir, moi c'est actuellement un village et une ville congolais ;-)<br><br>Amitiés,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br style='caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-variant-caps: normal;text-align:start;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 style='caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);orphans: auto;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>André.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-be mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>Talk-be@openstreetmap.org</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br></span><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>