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    Hi Arlindo,<br>
    <br>
    very good idea!<br>
    I am one of those 'armchair' mappers mentioned.<br>
    <br>
    When using the IBGE data, I found out<br>
    <br>
    - all names are printed in capitals, which results in a problem for
    me not knowing the correct spelling rules when typing e.g. „RUA
    VINTE E CINCO DE ABRIL" - there are many possibilities to write
    „vinte“, „e“, „cinco“, „de“ and „abril“ in capitals or not.<br>
    <br>
    - diacretics are not present in the capitalized words. So I don't
    know whether it means e.g. „rua do cimeterio“ or „rua do cimetério“
    (well, in this case, I learned 'cimetério' should be correct)<br>
    <br>
    - there are a number of 'street names' that are not names actually,
    but are descriptive, e.g. „RUA SEM DENOMINACAO“ (street with no
    name) or „RUA PROJETADA 02“ or „RODOVIA PARA CAJUITA“ (I guess the
    latter name means just 'road to Cajuita')<br>
    <br>
    So it would be very helpful to have a web site where one can lookup<br>
    <br>
    - rules how to type Brazil words correctly<br>
    <br>
    - a list of descriptive names which are not actually names and
    should not be used as street names in OSM<br>
    <br>
    kind regards<br>
    Andreas (Germany)<br>
    <br>
    By the way, just now the IBGE layers are not working in JOSM<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 08.11.2014 um 07:25 schrieb Arlindo
      Pereira:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Pessoal, mandei o email a seguir para a lista <a
          moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="mailto:maproulette@openstreetmap.org">maproulette@openstreetmap.org</a>
        para ver o que o pessoal de lá (desenvolvedores do sistema e
        criadores de challenges) acha da tarefa de nomear ruas a partir
        do mapa do IBGE.
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        <div>Hello everyone,
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          <div>my name is Arlindo Pereira and I'm a fellow mapper from
            Brazil.</div>
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          <div>First of all, I'd like to thank Martjin for writing the
            tutorial for writing a Map Roulette challenge. And of
            course, all the developers of the system.</div>
          <div><br>
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          <div>I'd like to share the idea I had to write a challenge
            (specific only to Brazil) and would like your critic about
            it.</div>
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          <div>Here in Brazil we have a government office, IBGE, that
            releases maps in public domain. We already imported some of
            their files (federal roads, states and cities borders, to
            name a few). One of their maps has the street names. It'd be
            very dificult to import and specially make conflation of
            this data - it wouldn't be a good idea to make a direct
            import because its shapes have low resolution, the ways
            drawn by satellite imagery are way better - but it has the
            street names. So in many areas of our country with no or few
            mappers, we have an armchair mapping system of drawing the
            streets via Bing images and inserting their names via this
            map.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>This diary page describes the process to add this layer
            on iD and in JOSM: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Eitz/diary/24082">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Eitz/diary/24082</a>
            (in portugues, but you can catch the idea).</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>So, I was thinking of a challenge that detects
            highway=residential|tertiary|unclassified roads and open up
            the editor with this layer already activated on the
            background, so the user could insert the street name, by
            reading the name and inserting the name=* tag.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>My question is: do you think it is feasible? It seems to
            be an atomic task (name a street based on this other map)
            and everyone could help (even if not being brazilian).</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Thanks in advance.</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">2014-11-03 13:05 GMT-02:00 Erick de
              Oliveira Leal <span dir="ltr"><<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:erickdeoliveiraleal@gmail.com"
                  target="_blank">erickdeoliveiraleal@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                <p dir="ltr">Seria ótimo.</p>
                <div class="gmail_quote">Em 03/11/2014 12:52, "wille"
                  <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:wille@wille.blog.br" target="_blank">wille@wille.blog.br</a>>
                  escreveu:
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                        0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Acho
                        que o MapRoulette é mais útil para corrigir
                        erros que a gente não consegue achar facilmente
                        olhando o mapa. Por exemplo tem uma tarefa lá
                        que é corrigir prédios que se sobrepõem a uma
                        rodovia. Ou por exemplo caminhos que se
                        encontram e tem nomes diferentes, porém
                        parecidos.<br>
                        <br>
                        Poderíamos fazer uma tarefa por exemplo para
                        corrigir caminhos que se cruzam sem um nó em
                        comum e sem diferentes layers.<br>
                        <br>
                        Em 2014-11-02 21:59, Arlindo Pereira escreveu:<br>
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                          style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Acho
                          que criar um desafio para copiar nomes de ruas
                          do IBGE seria uma<br>
                          excelente ideia. Vou trabalhar nisso.<br>
                          <br>
                          []s<br>
                          Em 02/11/2014 20:07, "Wille" <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:wille@wille.blog.br"
                            target="_blank">wille@wille.blog.br</a>>
                          escreveu:<br>
                          <br>
                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                            style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Algumas
                            novidades do OSM<br>
                            <br>
                            Changesets agora possuem o recurso de
                            comentários:<br>
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                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2014/11/02/introducing-changeset-discussions/"
                            target="_blank">https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2014/11/02/introducing-changeset-discussions/</a><br>
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                            style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">[1]<br>
                            <br>
                            Quem for participar do State of the Map, no
                            próximo fim de semana<br>
                            em Buenos Aires, vai acontecer um encontro
                            das comunidades<br>
                            latinoamericanas. Vai ser no sábado às
                            14h30. Além disso, podemos<br>
                            marcar um horário para nós brasileiros
                            batermos um papo também.<br>
                            <br>
                            Não sei se vocês sabiam, mas o MapRoulette
                            possui tarefas em todo<br>
                            o mundo. Da última vez que eu havia usado,
                            era apenas nos Estados<br>
                            Unidos: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://maproulette.org/"
                              target="_blank">http://maproulette.org/</a>
                            [2]<br>
                            <br>
                            Foi publicado um tutorial de como criar
                            desafios para o<br>
                            MapRoulette: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://gist.github.com/mvexel/b5ad1cb0c91ac245ea3f"
                              target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/mvexel/b5ad1cb0c91ac245ea3f</a>
                            [3]<br>
                            <br>
                            até mais,<br>
                            wille<br>
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                          Links:<br>
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                          [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2014/11/02/introducing-changeset-discussions/"
                            target="_blank">https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2014/11/02/introducing-changeset-discussions/</a><br>
                          [2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://maproulette.org/"
                            target="_blank">http://maproulette.org/</a><br>
                          [3] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://gist.github.com/mvexel/b5ad1cb0c91ac245ea3f"
                            target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/mvexel/b5ad1cb0c91ac245ea3f</a><br>
                          [4] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br"
                            target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br</a><br>
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                        -- <br>
                        wille<br>
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