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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you experiment with
the roadmatcher using data from OSM, be sure to reproject your datasets in
projected coordinate system (LCC, utm). That way you will be able to use meters
as tolerance values. Otherwise you have to use decimal degrees.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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bold;font-style:italic'>Jean-Sebastien Moreau<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
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</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ressources naturelles Canada / Natural Resources
Canada</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Centre d’information topographique / Centre
for Topographic Information</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gouvernement du Canada / Government of Canada</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2144-010 rue King Ouest, Sherbrooke
(Québec) Canada J1J 2E8</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2144-010 King West Street, Sherbrooke, Quebec,
Canada J1J 2E8</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>téléphone / phone: 819.564.5600 ext. 252</span></font><font
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samvekemans@gmail.com [mailto:samvekemans@gmail.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Sam Vekemans<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> February 4, 2009 10:17 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Moreau,
Jean-Sébastien</st1:PersonName>; Michel Gilbert; Steve Singer<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Talk-ca] uStream.tv
- GeoBase Import to OpenStreetMap</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I hope Steve Singer would be able to help answer the question.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I'll just give my notes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Maybe even tomorrow (thursday) i can have time in the library to try to
explain on the white board what the problem is; and then try to explain what i
mean when i say "copy / paste" from geobase.osm to data.osm<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Where all the tags would remain in tact. ... a tedious process, but not
any more tedious than tracing from your own GPS Tracks. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Does anyone know of a way to get a camera on my screen, so then when im
talking people can see what is going on with my screen? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>For me, i'm still a little 'daft or slow' as i cant figure out where to
'automatch' when i have OpenJump running, and have loaded both sets of files.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>.. nor have i figured out how to convert the osm data to a SHP file.
I need even more detailed instructions :-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I imagine that the EXACT same process to convert the automatch results
can be used for other shape files (just change the tags).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Sam<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:01 PM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Moreau,
Jean-Sébastien</st1:PersonName> <<a
href="mailto:Jean-Sebastien.Moreau@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca">Jean-Sebastien.Moreau@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Hi all,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I did some test with the roadmatcher and wanted
to give you some feedback. Although the tool has advanced features for the
conflation of roads networks, the automatic matching function doesn't behave as
expected when the two datasets have significant differences in terms of
segmentation rules. As some of you might have realised, the geobase network has
a lot more junction than the osm network. The roadmatcher tool seems to have
trouble to find the different pieces of geobase segment that correspond to an
OSM element. Fixing the resulting layer was a tedious task.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It might be possible though to tweak on the
different tolerance values in order to improve the result.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Have some of you got good result with this tool?
If so, what values did you use for the tolerances?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Right now, I'm working on a simpler solution
using fme.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'> </span></font><b><i><font color=blue
face=Century><span style='font-family:Century;color:blue;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'>Jean-Sebastien Moreau</span></font></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:navy'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ressources naturelles Canada / Natural Resources
Canada</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Centre d'information topographique / Centre for
Topographic Information</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>
<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gouvernement du Canada / Government of Canada</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2144-010 rue King Ouest, Sherbrooke
(Québec) Canada J1J 2E8</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2144-010 King West Street, Sherbrooke, Quebec,
Canada J1J 2E8</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>téléphone / phone: 819.564.5600 ext. 252</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>télécopieur / facsimile: 819.564.5698</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>email:</span></font><b><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><b><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue;font-weight:bold'><a href="mailto:jmoreau@usherbrooke.ca"
target="_blank">jmoreau@usherbrooke.ca</a></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:talk-ca-bounces@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ca-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-ca-bounces@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ca-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Sam Vekemans<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> January 29, 2009 3:32 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-us@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Talk-ca] uStream.tv -
GeoBase Import to OpenStreetMap</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>After
doing 2 broadcasts, 1st being a test. Fortunately, some good feedback.
For the 2nd broadcast, i used the white board, and was able to draw out
and try to explain in picture-form what the problem is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>So now,
for the next one, I will be able to further get into it, and try to hammer out
all the objections, and hopefully it will be able to produce more ideas. :) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I haven't
heard back yet from the latest ideas, as it looks like osm2shp is still in
the works. as well as osm2csv.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I still
need to earn what the capabilities are for RoadMatcher, as well as what the
limits are to JOSM with looking at duplicates.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The only
other application i know of which can successfully merge CSV files is GED.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>GED From
Ancestry.org project, where each entry has a unique ID number, however, there
is smart matching where it links First/Last names and Birth/Death dates and
relations / spouse/kids, to try to identify ancestors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>So it
copies the information from 1 contact and adds them to another, then
removes/merges duplicates. ... i'll try to contact to makers of that
program, perhaps they have an idea.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Oh ya,
for the contacts example, it looks like gmail will have the contact-sync
soon. Perhaps its more difficult then i thought?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sam
Vekemans<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Across
Canada Trails<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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