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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Sam,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am not done yet with
the chart.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ve checked with
my co-workers about the “In geobase” statement of canvec features.
It means that the same feature exist in a geobase product (in this case the NHN).
I think we should first use the features in canvec. Later we could check what
we can get from the NHN that was not in canvec. The NHN add a lot of feature
types that will be of no use in OSM.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So this is why I have
decided to add the mapping for these features.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The “N/A in OSM”
mean that I was unable to find something appropriate in OSM map features wiki
page :</span></font><span lang=EN-CA> </span><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'> </span></font><b><i><font
color=blue face=Century><span style='font-family:Century;color:blue;font-weight:
bold;font-style:italic'>Jean-Sebastien Moreau<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ressources naturelles Canada / Natural Resources
Canada</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Centre d’information topographique / Centre
for Topographic Information</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gouvernement du Canada / Government of Canada</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2144-010 rue King Ouest, Sherbrooke
(Québec) Canada J1J 2E8</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2144-010 King West Street, Sherbrooke, Quebec,
Canada J1J 2E8</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>téléphone / phone: 819.564.5600 ext. 252</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>télécopieur / facsimile: 819.564.5698</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font><b><i><font color=blue
face=Century><span style='font-family:Century;color:blue;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>email:</span></font><b><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><b><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue;font-weight:bold'><a href="mailto:jmoreau@usherbrooke.ca">jmoreau@usherbrooke.ca</a></span></font></b><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
samvekemans@gmail.com [mailto:samvekemans@gmail.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Sam Vekemans<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> March 3, 2009 6:04 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Moreau,
Jean-Sébastien</st1:PersonName>; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Wiki edits - Hydrography</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi thanks for all the edits :) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>1 - I like the new table edit, where 3 lines are merges into 1 ... that
makes sence ... and saves in space making the chart smaller. ... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>When i go through the other charts again, i'll be fixing that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2 - I saw you indicated that more of the Features are listed in NHN
than i have indicated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The source for my assumption that items were in geobase is from the
CanVec PDF map features cart, where it lists weather or not the item is in fact
IN geobase.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>So my assumption is that the charts already were correct???<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>So to elevate this quarry, i propose that a link to the
GeoBase NHN chart is made available (link to it), and in the NHN chart, these
same map features get listed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Anyway, when looking over the latest verion of canvec2osm, i see that
those items that were put in the 'geobase' folder,.. are actually very good.
IMO.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I havent yet (but i should) dig into geobase and download for myself
the NHN area of Niagra falls.. I can then make the same import script using the
shp-to-osm Java script, and add in all of the database columns, with the
appropriate source tags.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I would recommend my method, rather than using the geobase2osm script.
This is because for Hydrography, there is very little to no actual
'duplicates'. So searching the area to find any duplicates is very easy
going about it the manual way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Also, i do have a bias about geobase2osm (that is that i do not
understand HOW to actually run the script) For me, running a java script
is simple, because Java is already installed on windows machines when your on
the net. .. perl & python is VERY confusing :-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>However, like NHN, the canvec2osm features DO cover a WHOLE LOT of
data.. so taking on the next phase is some extra work. ... which i think also
needs to be done.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>That said, i would propose that once im mostly done the charts and
matching up all the features which is NOT in GeoBase, that i hold off on
pushing for import. Then I can start work on the GeoBaseNHN2osm.bat
script<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Has anyone already started it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Oh ya, and 1 last point.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>For where it says "</span></font><span class=apple-style-span><font
size=1 face=-webkit-sans-serif><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:-webkit-sans-serif'><span
style='-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px;-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px'>Is
in GeoBase – do not use - N/A in OSM" I would like to challenge each
of these statements and explain WHY.... ie. </span></span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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bgcolor="#F9F9F9" style='background:#F9F9F9;border-collapse:collapse;
border:none;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.5pt;color:black'>39- Manmade hydrographic entity -
(Entité hydrographique anthropique)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.5pt;color:black'>1450009<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.5pt;color:black'><a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Mf_node.png"
title="Image:Mf_node.png" style='background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:
initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;-webkit-background-origin: initial;
background-color:initial;background-position:initial initial'><font
color="#002bb8"><span style='color:#002BB8;text-decoration:none'><img
border=0 width=20 height=20 id="_x0000_i1025"
src="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/b/b5/Mf_node.png" style='border-width:
initial;border-color:initial;border-bottom-style:none;border-left-style:none;
border-right-style:none;border-top-style:none;vertical-align:middle'
alt="Image:Mf_node.png"></span></font></a><a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Mf_way.png" title=way
style='background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;
-webkit-background-origin: initial;background-color:initial;background-position:
initial initial'><font color="#002bb8"><span style='color:#002BB8;text-decoration:
none'><img border=0 width=20 height=20 id="_x0000_i1026"
src="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/6/6a/Mf_way.png" style='border-width:
initial;border-color:initial;border-bottom-style:none;border-left-style:none;
border-right-style:none;border-top-style:none;vertical-align:middle' alt=way></span></font></a> <a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Mf_area.png" title=area
style='background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;
-webkit-background-origin: initial;background-color:initial;background-position:
initial initial'><font color="#002bb8"><span style='color:#002BB8;text-decoration:
none'><img border=0 width=20 height=20 id="_x0000_i1027"
src="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/8/83/Mf_area.png" style='border-width:
initial;border-color:initial;border-bottom-style:none;border-left-style:none;
border-right-style:none;border-top-style:none;vertical-align:middle'
alt=area></span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.5pt;color:black'>Wharf - ( Quai )<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.5pt;color:black'>A structure built along or at an angle
to the shore of navigable waters so that ships may lie alongside to receive
and discharge cargo and passengers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.5pt;color:black'>1450080;1450081;1450082<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.5pt;color:black'>Is in GeoBase – do not use - N/A
in OSM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>A "warf" is certainly applicable in OSM, at some point
boaters will be able to use OSM, as they can help fix the charts and map the
oceans. ... :-) (once boaters see the awesome power of community mapping,
that is.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Sam Vekemans<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Across Canada Trails<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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