Hi all,<br><br>Okay, I wait for Canvec Import tool/script to organize the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". I wait for Sam's script or Frank's to make the call. I'll be willing to test the development if you need it.<br>
<br>thx,<br><br>Michel<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/11/8 Sam Vekemans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:acrosscanadatrails@gmail.com">acrosscanadatrails@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Oh ya,<br>
I'll be there via skype/video chat & IRC :)<br>
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Sam<br>
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On 11/8/09, Daniel Bégin <<a href="mailto:jfd553@hotmail.com">jfd553@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I’m in!<br>
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> From: Michel Gilbert [mailto:<a href="mailto:michcasa@gmail.com">michcasa@gmail.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: November 7, 2009 19:49<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:osm-sherbrooke-discussion@lists.coactivate.org">osm-sherbrooke-discussion@lists.coactivate.org</a>; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap<br>
> Cc: Yves Moisan; <a href="mailto:jfd553@hotmail.com">jfd553@hotmail.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import<br>
> workshop in Sherbrooke?<br>
><br>
><br>
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> Hi Frank, Yves and all,<br>
><br>
> I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract<br>
> people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in November,<br>
> could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party with<br>
> no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace. We would need a<br>
> place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a room<br>
> where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on<br>
> Wellington meets all the requirements.<br>
><br>
> In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could explain<br>
> importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch). Any<br>
> volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would be<br>
> to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my knowledge, I<br>
> don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in<br>
> development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We<br>
> (Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter but<br>
> the tool won't be available in short terms.<br>
><br>
> If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to organize<br>
> the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda:<br>
> - Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags<br>
> - Training on Importing tools<br>
> - Explain OSM xml file<br>
> - Training on JOSM<br>
> - Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data.<br>
><br>
> Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will keep<br>
> on discussing to put in place the missing pieces.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Michel<br>
><br>
><br>
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> 2009/11/6 Frank Steggink <<a href="mailto:steggink@steggink.org">steggink@steggink.org</a>><br>
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> Yves Moisan wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Frank,<br>
><br>
> Sorry for top posting, but I just want the ball rolling on the OSM<br>
> Sherbrooke list. Michel was thinking of a Sherbrooke OSM meeting end<br>
> November. I think the training you are proposing could be part of that<br>
> meeting, although it is probably a bit technical for the average mapper.<br>
> Michel, what do you think ?<br>
><br>
> Yves<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi guys,<br>
><br>
> I just had an idea, but because I don't know if it is a good one, I'll<br>
> share it with you. Would it be a good idea to organize a workshop to import<br>
> Geobase and Canvec data?<br>
><br>
> Today I was contacted by Oxalin, who has been editing in Granby lately, and<br>
> he mentioned that he and a friend are willing to help with the import as<br>
> well (at least for St-Jean-sur-Richelieu). Perhaps there are also some<br>
> people from Montreal interested. There is a large concentration of users in<br>
> Sherbrooke, and because it is somewhat in between Montreal and Quebec, I<br>
> think it would be the most obvious location.<br>
><br>
> Regarding the workshop: I could explain how to import the roads, and edit /<br>
> make connections with JOSM. We could also discuss the import of Canvec and<br>
> NHN (hydro) data, because both Daniel and I are interested in it. Maybe<br>
> Michel can explain how he imported the data through FME, although I'm not<br>
> sure if this is relevant, because not everyone has access to it.<br>
><br>
> About NHN import: I think that users from the Montreal area should also<br>
> pick up the gauntlet. There is a whole lot of data to be imported. I also<br>
> have no idea about the current data quality, but I expect this to be a huge<br>
> undertaking. (And what I've done so far pales in comparison with that.)<br>
> Anyways, they'll also benefit from OSM :)<br>
><br>
> If you think this would be a good idea, what would be the term to organize<br>
> such an event? A couple of hours, together with a small mapping party<br>
> (proposal: gathering and entering addresses) should be enough. And of<br>
> course a dinner at the end of the day :) For me it won't be a problem to<br>
> come from Quebec, but I would prefer doing this before the winter really<br>
> sets in. The winter is too cold and snowy to venture outdoors anyways, so<br>
> what would be better than to spend our time importing data in our beloved<br>
> Open Street Map?<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Frank<br>
><br>
> Hi Yves,<br>
><br>
> What kind of meeting are you considering? Is it a mapping party, or just an<br>
> event planned in an evening. In the latter case it won't be possible for me<br>
> to attend, because of the distance. When the idea is to hold a mapping party<br>
> (on a day in the weekend), I think it can be combined very well. For<br>
> example, we could start an hour earlier in the morning, and I can explain a<br>
> number of things about the import. The mapping party itself could start<br>
> afterwards, so then people who do not care about the import, don't have to<br>
> hear all of this stuff. I only mentioned "a couple of hours" because I was<br>
> not aware you were thinking about organizing something yourself, and someone<br>
> from farther away would not come if there was not a mapping party or<br>
> something else going on.<br>
><br>
> Right now the import of Geobase and Canvec data in Quebec is gaining<br>
> momentum, so this is an excellent occasion to get more people jumping in :)<br>
> Daniel already mentioned that he and Michel were interested in adding Canvec<br>
> data around Sherbrooke (although I hope they're willing to extend their<br>
> efforts to the rest of Quebec too). Also Alex (user:Oxalin) and his friend<br>
> are willing to lend a hand. So, that would already be 5 persons, if all of<br>
> them can attend, and 6 including you. And, as mentioned I also hope to get<br>
> some people from the Montreal area interested.<br>
><br>
> Importing all of the data is a lot of work. I think that road-wise we're<br>
> about halfway in Quebec. Not too bad, but it could be better, considering<br>
> that other provinces are "finished". Importing is more than just uploading<br>
> the data to the OSM server, so I want to pay some attention to cleanup an<br>
> other quality aspects as well. This certainly improves the data quality,<br>
> which opens the way for things like routing. Although information about the<br>
> import is available in several places (wiki, talk-ca), it is hard for<br>
> someone just starting to get going. Unfortunately the guy who took on<br>
> himself to coordinate the import has a communication style which is hard to<br>
> follow. Also the wiki pages are outdated, or not entirely correct (as is the<br>
> current shp-to-osm page). Certainly, someone could improve it, but I think<br>
> it would be more effective to show in person how things are working, what to<br>
> look for, etc. Hence this idea.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Frank<br>
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