Thanks Frank,<br>I updated the chart, i also included a link to itoworld where it shows the current status of the area. Will be great to see it grow. :)<br><br>I'm putting all the ITOworld Images in the mediafire folder<br>
<a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=3b30da6df5072902ab1eab3e9fa335ca900fe694bd9e8be6">http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=3b30da6df5072902ab1eab3e9fa335ca900fe694bd9e8be6</a><br><br>And heres the picture of it<br>
<a href="http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=tootmtmnkok">http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=tootmtmnkok</a><br>
<br>Cheers,<br>Sam<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Frank Steggink <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:steggink@steggink.org">steggink@steggink.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi John,<br>
<br>
I've converted one NTS tile (021N08, Edmunston), and uploaded it here:<br>
[1] This way you can give it a try right away, in case you get stuck<br>
with the installation of the GDAL bindings. The Edmunston area<br>
corresponds with the following location in OSM: [2] . You can paste that<br>
URL directly into JOSM, in order to download data for that area.<br>
<br>
One thing what is odd is that there are really a lot of nodes in this<br>
file. I haven't seen this to this extent in the Quebec data. It would be<br>
better to clean this up somehow, but it could also be done at a later<br>
time. Because of this, and also in order to keep the work manageable, it<br>
is important to upload small chunks. (Small = about a couple of thousand<br>
of nodes.) There are already some roads in Edmunston itself, so you only<br>
had to add missing roads.<br>
<br>
When importing data, it works best to do cleanup immediately, or shortly<br>
after the import. This is connecting nodes, removing duplicate nodes,<br>
other inconsistencies, etc. It would be much more tedious if this needs<br>
to be done at a later moment. If you don't use it already, please check<br>
out the Validator plugin of JOSM, and learn how to use it.<br>
<br>
Frank<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://www.steggink.org/osm/Geobase_NB_021N/021n08_out.osm.zip" target="_blank">http://www.steggink.org/osm/Geobase_NB_021N/021n08_out.osm.zip</a><br>
[2]<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=47.375&mlon=-68.25&minlat=47.25&minlon=-68.5&maxlat=47.5&maxlon=-68&box=yes&layers=B000FTF" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=47.375&mlon=-68.25&minlat=47.25&minlon=-68.5&maxlat=47.5&maxlon=-68&box=yes&layers=B000FTF</a><br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
Frank Steggink wrote:<br>
> Hi John,<br>
><br>
> It's been a while ago since I installed this. I didn't have GDAL on my<br>
> machine before, so I'm using the latest version (still 1.6.2). And after<br>
> the installation I didn't bother about it anymore ;)<br>
><br>
> Which OS are you using? If you're using Windows, then you should be able<br>
> to use the installer for the Python version you're using at the bottom<br>
> of the page. Maybe you also need to install GDAL 1.6.1, if you're<br>
> currently using an older version, but it might still work if you have an<br>
> older version. If you're not sure what to choose, you can best try to<br>
> contact Howard Butler. He is the author of these bindings, and his<br>
> e-mail address is listed on the page.<br>
><br>
> If this doesn't work for you, I could make a number of files available,<br>
> which you can import. A while back I did that also for someone else,<br>
> which worked well.<br>
><br>
> By the way, I forgot to add in my first mail that when you're using the<br>
> Geobase files, you'll have the same attributes which are used in most of<br>
> the country. This won't be the case for Canvec.<br>
><br>
> Hope this helps,<br>
><br>
> Frank<br>
><br>
> JOHN SMART wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Frank<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks for your reply. I'll use the NRN data for now then. I have<br>
>> grabbed the NB NRN files, no problem there.<br>
>><br>
>> What I have done so far and where I am stuck now:<br>
>> -- following what's written in<br>
>> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase2osm" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase2osm</a>:<br>
>> - installed python 2.6 (I already had python 2.something as part of<br>
>> FWTools but python version is too early to support Shapely)<br>
>> - installed Shapely 1.0.14 under the Python directory tree<br>
>><br>
>> but now I am stuck at installing "OGR Python bindings osgeo.ogr Python<br>
>> GDAL" <<a href="http://pypi.python.org/pypi/GDAL/" target="_blank">http://pypi.python.org/pypi/GDAL/</a>><br>
>> Question: what, exactly, do I need to download and install here.<br>
>> Note that I already have the FWTools (<a href="http://fwtools.maptools.org" target="_blank">http://fwtools.maptools.org</a>)<br>
>> installation which includes GDAL and OGR.<br>
>> What more / different do I need, to satisfy this Python bindings<br>
>> requirement?<br>
>><br>
>> Am I still on the right track?<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks for any more help<br>
>> John<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> *From:* Frank Steggink <<a href="mailto:steggink@steggink.org">steggink@steggink.org</a>><br>
>> *To:* John Smart <<a href="mailto:smartowka@rogers.com">smartowka@rogers.com</a>><br>
>> *Cc:* <a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>> *Sent:* Thu, November 19, 2009 11:33:29 PM<br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Help for Canvec to OSM for part of NB<br>
>><br>
>> Hi John,<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks for looking at the scripts. Please see below.<br>
>><br>
>> John Smart wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hello<br>
>>><br>
>>> I would like to take a shot at updating the OSM for some of New<br>
>>><br>
>> Brunswick, which presently does not have very much mapping compiled.<br>
>> The plan I think I'd like to follow is:<br>
>><br>
>>> 1. Select an NTS 1:50 000 area that has few roads and which has no<br>
>>><br>
>> OSM or minimal OSM.<br>
>><br>
>>> 2. Run script(s) to generate OSM from the Canvec data set. At this<br>
>>><br>
>> point I am only interested in roads, to prove the process for that.<br>
>><br>
>>> 3. Upload the OSM.<br>
>>> 4. Have some people (you?) review the data, make comments.<br>
>>> 5. Iterate the process a bit till quality good (or I give up!)<br>
>>> 6. If I'm still here, maybe add some more.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Any comments on my plan are very welcome, especially helpful tips!<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>> Regarding the road data, Canvec is derived from Geobase NRN, so it<br>
>> might be better to use the latter. The CITS guys here should be able<br>
>> to give a better answer ;) For Geobase NRN there is a different<br>
>> script, named geobase2osm.py [1].With that it is possible to convert<br>
>> certain areas (like a NTS tile) to an OSM file, and then you can use<br>
>> JOSM to import the data. There is a wiki page describing the Geobase<br>
>> process [2], but it still describes the convoluted process involving<br>
>> RoadMatcher.<br>
>><br>
>> The current process is:<br>
>> * create a bounds file for a certain area for geobase2osm.py<br>
>> * execute geobase2osm.py<br>
>> * download OSM data for this area from JOSM<br>
>> * open the resulting OSM file in JOSM<br>
>> * copy over the features which do not exist<br>
>> -> make sure you connect the new roads to the existing roads in OSM<br>
>> -> depending on the density of the data, it is generally better to<br>
>> work in multiple iterations<br>
>> * upload the data to OSM<br>
>> -> indicate in the description of the changeset that you imported data<br>
>> from Geobase for tile 999x00.<br>
>><br>
>> Several people on this list have experience with this process, so<br>
>> don't hesitate to ask any questions you might have.<br>
>><br>
>> For Canvec we're organizing a meeting in a few weeks, in order to get<br>
>> some experience with the import, and to work on the process.<br>
>><br>
>>> The part I'm currently interested in is #2, generating OSM from<br>
>>><br>
>> Canvec. I saw on the mailing list that there is a python script called<br>
>> canvec_to_osm_features.py, and I have downloaded that. However, I have<br>
>> difficulty running it on my Windows XP box. Specifically:<br>
>><br>
>>> - I can launch python (which I happen to have on my path)<br>
>>> - But if I just run "C:\Canvec2Osm>python canvec_to_osm_features.py<br>
>>><br>
>> --version" then nothing happens.<br>
>><br>
>>> I'd appreciate any comments on exactly what I need to do to get this<br>
>>><br>
>> .py script to work.<br>
>><br>
>> The script you should execute is canvec-to-osm.py. :) The other script<br>
>> only contains the list of features which should be imported. I<br>
>> separated it to make it easier to manage. (Unfortunately the second<br>
>> script file contains underscores, but I'll update that soon. Maybe I<br>
>> should just rename it to "features.py", so that it is immediately<br>
>> obvious that this script should not be called directly.)<br>
>><br>
>>> Lastly (for now) I think that if I get the .py working, I will<br>
>>><br>
>> immediately run into a problem with shp-to-osm. Like the .py readme<br>
>> said, I have made a bin directory and I've put the shp-to-osm in<br>
>> there. Actually I have both:<br>
>><br>
>>> 2009-11-11 17:37 7,365,493<br>
>>><br>
>> shp-to-osm-0.7.3-jar-with-dependencies.jar<br>
>><br>
>>> 2009-11-11 17:37 7,365,493 shp-to-osm.jar<br>
>>> in case there is some naming problem. Have I done the right thing?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>> Ian Dees always uses the longer name when building the jar file, so<br>
>> you only have to keep the first one. You'll learn quickly enough if<br>
>> the jar file can't be found for some reason :)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> Thanks for any help. I hope I won't get frustrated and that I'll be<br>
>>><br>
>> able to help the project a bit!<br>
>> Helping us would be wonderful. Especially New Brunswick still has<br>
>> large white areas, so it would be excellent to see that filled up!<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>> Frank<br>
>><br>
>> [1] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase2osm" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase2osm</a><br>
>> [2] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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