<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Sam Dyck</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samueldyck@gmail.com">samueldyck@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:50 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] More Google Copying<br>To: Adam Dunn <<a href="mailto:dunnadam@gmail.com">dunnadam@gmail.com</a>><br><br><br>Sam sent them a message, I was just uncomfortable explaining what a copyright easter egg is and the purpose it serves.<br>
If and when the user responds we can decide what to do. Do/can we temporarily hide their changes or is that not possible/advisable/necessary? <br><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Adam Dunn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dunnadam@gmail.com" target="_blank">dunnadam@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
The NRN site confirms that names are not available in Manitoba (NRN for that province is on version 3) [1]. Sam, maybe you should send a nice email explaining that a blank map is better than an illegal one. This person has made edits to my hometown that I basically had to revert because the geometry was way off. Don't know what his source is...<br>
<br>[1] <a href="http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/nrn/status.html" target="_blank">http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/nrn/status.html</a><br><font color="#888888"><br>Adam</font><div><div></div><div><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Sam Dyck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samueldyck@gmail.com" target="_blank">samueldyck@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">About an hour ago he/she was editing in Saskatoon, and has done a lot of work in Rural Manitoba to.<div>
<div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Sam Vekemans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:acrosscanadatrails@gmail.com" target="_blank">acrosscanadatrails@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Not sure if this link works <br><a href="http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?area=1372:7&show=users&sort=total-&colour=date:30" target="_blank">http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?area=1372:7&show=users&sort=total-&colour=date:30</a><br>
But you can see whats going on in the area..<br>(or just log in and zoom to the area to find the mappers)<br><br><a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/Orkp7E40gO0fwyJ8AKlIZQ?feat=directlink" target="_blank">http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/Orkp7E40gO0fwyJ8AKlIZQ?feat=directlink</a><br>
<br>Ya, it seems like alot of work has been done reciently.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Sam<br><br><br clear="all">Twitter: @Acrosscanada<br>Blog: <a href="http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Sam Dyck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samueldyck@gmail.com" target="_blank">samueldyck@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I did, Geobase doesn't even have the street and lacks street names in Manitoba. (at least this is the case in the viewer. The Geobase data in Winnipeg appears to be out of date by at least 14 years in some cases. <br>
But yes, a mapping party would be a good idea, any other Winnipegers on this list?<div><div></div><div><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Sam Vekemans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:acrosscanadatrails@gmail.com" target="_blank">acrosscanadatrails@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks for sharing.<br>The user seems to be doing alot of great work.<br>Did you cross-check with the GeoBase data?<br>Im not sure what the spelling of it is in there.<br><br>If anyone is in Winnipeg, perhaps a couch mapping party is needed?<br>
<br>Cheers,<br>Sam<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Sam Dyck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samueldyck@gmail.com" target="_blank">samueldyck@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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So I just got a job that involves entering addresses into Google Maps (don't ask), one of these streets, Drobot Place (all address in winnipeg), Google has either deliberately or accidentally named Drobol Place (<a href="http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=54+Drobol+Place&sll=49.940788,-97.039954&sspn=0.009239,0.01929&gl=ca&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=54+Drobol+Pl,+Winnipeg,+Division+No.+11,+Manitoba&ll=49.94056,-97.040133&spn=0.009239,0.01929&z=16" target="_blank">here</a>, compare <a href="http://ca.maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=49.940088&lon=-97.039395&zoom=16&q1=44%20Drobot%20Place%2C%20Winnipeg" target="_blank">Yahoo</a>, <a href="http://www.bing.com/maps/#JndoZXJlMT01NiUwOURyb2JvdCtQbGFjZSZiYj00OS45NDQ1OTAyNzAwMzM5JTdlLTk3LjAyODQ1MjY2NDM3MDklN2U0OS45MzUxMDI4MTY4ODQzJTdlLTk3LjA0ODQwODI5OTQ0MTc=" target="_blank">Bing,</a> <a href="http://map.winnipeg.ca/AsmtPreview/AsmtMap.asp?fav=F&CurrentYearLabel=2009%20Assessment%20Roll%20%282003%20market%20value%29&DisplayProposed=T&ProposedYearLabel=Proposed%202010%20Assessment%20Value%20%28Market%20value%20as%20at%20April%201,%202008%29&PIN=4003338400&BufferSize=100&MapWidth=800&MapHeight=600&lang=EN&Maptype=ADV" target="_blank">City of Winnipeg Assesment</a>, <a href="http://maps.google.ca/maps?client=firefox-a&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=70+drobol+place,+Winnipeg&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=70+Drobol+Pl,+Winnipeg,+Division+No.+11,+Manitoba&gl=ca&ei=c7OBS5imEMqXtgfn39GSBw&ved=0CAkQ8gEwAA&ll=49.941181,-97.039624&spn=0.002375,0.006968&z=18&layer=c&cbll=49.941066,-97.039721&panoid=rJZ56epUjR7hEGhBbvZq-w&cbp=12,148.29,,0,3.34" target="_blank">Google Street View</a> (Needs Flash)). OSM <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.9405&lon=-97.04047&zoom=17&layers=B000FTF" target="_blank">makes the same mistake</a> as Google, which leads me to beileve that the street and others were copied from Google. I really hate telling people that I caught them "cheating." (I'm sure it was an honest mistake) Could someone please contact the editor responsible (you can look him/her up, I don't want to name names. I would be willing to help with any followup and cleanup, and you can give them my username (sammuell) if you wish, I just can't bring myself to send a message explaining just how I caught them.<br>
<br>Thanks<br><font color="#888888"><br>Sam<br><br><br>
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