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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>you have done a great job on that sample
datasets<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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<st1:PersonName w:st="on">talk-ca-bounces@openstreetmap.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">talk-ca-bounces@openstreetmap.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bégin, Daniel<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> April 1, 2010 08:42<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Sam
Vekemans</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Talk-CA OpenStreetMap<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm
samples</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Bonjour Sam,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks for the coments! Now, how can
I answer briefly to that email? !-) I'll try in the text</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Cheers,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Daniel</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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samvekemans@gmail.com [mailto:samvekemans@gmail.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Sam Vekemans</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 1 avril 2010 01:25<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Brent Fraser<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Bégin, Daniel; Talk-CA
OpenStreetMap<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm
samples</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi,<br>
<br>
Its AWESOME to see that all of the features are available within the SAME
file. This was something that i attempted todo (last year), but
couldn't figure it out. This helps as it makes for easy copying
over. .. when all these features are in the same .osm file. Thanks.<br>
<br>
Regarding natural=reef . ... or sub_sea=reef <br>
what's better natural=reef <a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/reef">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/reef</a>
or sub_sea=reef? <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sub_sea%3Dreef">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sub_sea%3Dreef</a>
<br>
they are both in the proposed status. .. so im not sure which one is better. <br>
Adding layer=-1 would indicate that it's below the surface.
Also. I dont think it needs to be a closed way. The way it's drawn
on Toporama is just like a natural=cliff (as a line with short angled lines on
one side)</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> Actually, what you
see in Toporama is Canvec data - the difference wtih .osm file is just a
questino of rendering. I'll check but may be natural=reef should be
replaced by its associated water feature using water=intermittent;
suface=rock tags .</span></font><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'><br>
</span></font><br>
Regarding water around the coastline. I would say that it's fine to
add to OSM. .. and just merge the nodes all the way along the coastline.
.. .. or remove it?<br>
I would think the exception would be if the waterbody had a name, then it
should be kept.<font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'> I thing that replacing coastline
node with the ones provided would be the best. By replacing I means move
to /copy from /merge with provided nodes because source=PGS coastline is
usually less accurate.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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And overall, the natural=wood works for me. On <st1:place w:st="on">Vancouver
Island</st1:place>, we used landuse=wood. But natural=wood probably is
more generic, as the actual ownership of that area is not known. All we
know is that "in this plot of land there are trees", beyond that, you
need to check other sources. Which sounds reasonable.<br>
.. and we cant say that it's "forest" as that would imply some kind
of protection. (which is unknown for this feature).</span></font><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'> </span></font>the tag natural=land for the nodes (where i
once put 'place=island'), natural=land is better, as it might not always be
rocks that the map feature is showing. it's just "something in the
water sticking out permanently"<br>
<br>
For waterway=steam. Yes, the geobase waterway=stream is higher<font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'> </span></font>quality,<font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> [please, send me
an example where GeoBase is of higher quality than CanVec for the same
area] </span></font>so if people want to load that instead, there is
nothing stopping them. From the data it's hard to know if it's a
'creek' 'stream' or 'river' so that needs to be physically
verified. I would think that the person loading the data is local,
so the would know best. .. but that might not be always the case. I
dont think it's too much troubble to connect these rivers around the edges. ..
and they may not even need to be connected. ... unless these rivers are for
navigating? (i also like to add the 'oneway=yes' by looking at the
contours. Makes for good navigating. IMO. But what canvec has is
just great :)<br>
<br>
..... ah ha! there is something. Some of the rivers dont have names, but
the name is available from Toporama. .. this can just be added in :-)<font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'> When corresponding GeoBase rivers have the name
attached to it, CanVec data will.</span></font><br>
<br>
For highway=turning_circle the fixme is 'Feature may not
exist'. I would say it's fine, because it would help people
to know that they can still do a 3-point-turn. (and that the road probably does
actually end. <br>
<br>
ok the big ones<br>
<br>
highway=tertiary is used for the 'orange' lines with toporama<br>
highway=tertiary is also used for the 'reg' lines in toporama<br>
and it looks like 'unpaved is orange' and 'red is paved'<font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Actually it is the contrary! Toporama is
derived from CanVec - it shows differences between paved and unpaved tertiary
roads by using different color :-).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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There are no duplicate intersecting nodes! Way to go team! :-)</span></font><font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'> Yes! </span></font><br>
<br>
The 'red lines' that are visably fatter than the tertiary lines. as 'motorways'
(for the ones that have more than 2 lanes) these would have a number
reference. (would be a provincial road)<font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font>otherwise
it's a 'secondary' <font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> They are supposed
to. If some dont, let me know where they are. </span></font><br>
<br>
'primary_link' does exist, that's awesome!<font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> The
CanVec "Ramp" processing is cleaver. </span></font><br>
<br>
What i dont see is a "source date" tag. I guess the
assumption is that it all still exists, unless it's known that it doesnt? by
local knowledge which would know better?<font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> The only
thing that tag says is that the feature was there at that time. Only local
knowledge can confirm that it is still there wich is the case 95%</span></font><br>
<br>
...<br>
Yup. From digging through the <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Quebec</st1:place></st1:State>
sample, i cant find anything wrong. <br>
Can anyone else?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Sam<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Brent Fraser <<a
href="mailto:bfraser@geoanalytic.com" target="_blank">bfraser@geoanalytic.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>My personal favorite, <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Waterton</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Park</st1:PlaceType> (82H04)in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Alberta</st1:place></st1:State>, specifically the townsite:<br>
<br>
49.0 to 49.1<br>
-113.9 to -114.0<br>
<br>
Best Regards,<br>
Brent Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Bégin wrote:<br>
> Bonjour!<br>
><br>
> I'm ready to release some samples to get your feedback on the Canvec.osm<br>
> product. I wont be able to release complete NTS datasets because
tiling<br>
> procedure is not completed yet.<br>
><br>
> So, if you send me the bounding box of the area you wish to look at<br>
> (max 0.1 X 0.1 degrees lat/lon - all include in the same map sheet),
I<br>
> should be able to create the sample an provide it to you and to the<br>
> community. I will identify all created sample in the wiki (Canvec
page)<br>
> and they will be made available from NRCan ftp site.<br>
><br>
> I might produce a dozen of datasets, so, first in - first out!<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Daniel<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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