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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=180182618-06052010>Adam,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=180182618-06052010>The problem was with empty tag managment with a
previous version of the osm writer we use. We are not expecting to
lose anything!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=180182618-06052010>Daniel</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Adam Dunn [mailto:dunnadam@gmail.com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 6 mai 2010 13:46<BR><B>To:</B> Bégin, Daniel<BR><B>Cc:</B>
Talk-CA OpenStreetMap<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm
samples<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Awesome, works. Any idea what was causing it? Are we losing some tag
(say for example the conversion was nullifying certain tags, and now we are
losing out on those tags)?<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Bégin, Daniel <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:Daniel.Begin@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca">Daniel.Begin@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN>Bonjour
Adam,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN>All
Canvec.osm samples have been replaced - there is no more empty
tags (<tag/>). For those who wishes to have a look, you will
find links to samples in <A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN>I don't
know how I did manage to open the previous version in
JOSM but this version should open properly!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial><SPAN>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial><SPAN>Daniel</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<DIV class=im><B>From:</B> Adam Dunn [mailto:<A
href="mailto:dunnadam@gmail.com" target=_blank>dunnadam@gmail.com</A>]
<BR></DIV><B>Sent:</B> 5 mai 2010 17:03<BR><B>To:</B> Bégin,
Daniel<BR><B>Cc:</B> Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
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<DIV class=h5><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm
samples<BR></DIV></DIV></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>If you generate new samples, I can test with the latest josm if you
want. Looking at the 082H04 sample file (I modified all the offending tags
that were preventing loading so that they had k="adam" v="crasher" so I could
identify them), there doesn't seem to be a pattern to which objects get the
null tags. Some are water related, some are roads, some have names, some
don't, etc. Don't know where it would be coming from.<BR><BR>As for the data
itself, most seems quite good. Comparing the sample file to Toporama WMS, I
noticed that waterfalls are missing from the sample osm file. Are they
available in the Canvec data?<BR><BR>It looks like roads that are dead-ends
have turning circles by default, with a note to remove if it doesn't actually
exist? Interesting choice of how to set things up.<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Bégin, Daniel <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:Daniel.Begin@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca"
target=_blank>Daniel.Begin@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN>Thanks
Adam,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial><SPAN>obviously it seems there being bad tags in the
samples. I'll replace the samples. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN>About
the conversion script, it should be OK because I have succesfully
created/uploaded many tiles since then using
JOSM.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN><A
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.371&lon=-72.271&zoom=11&layers=B000FTF"
target=_blank>http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.371&lon=-72.271&zoom=11&layers=B000FTF</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial><SPAN>Daniel</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:talk-ca-bounces@openstreetmap.org"
target=_blank>talk-ca-bounces@openstreetmap.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:talk-ca-bounces@openstreetmap.org"
target=_blank>talk-ca-bounces@openstreetmap.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Adam Dunn<BR><B>Sent:</B> 5 mai 2010 16:29<BR><B>To:</B> Talk-CA
OpenStreetMap
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<DIV><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm
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<DIV></DIV>Got a response on the error here [<A
href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/4971"
target=_blank>http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/4971</A>]. Turns out there
is a malformed tag, that doesn't have key or value in it (a null
tag)<BR>Here's line 16220 (the offending tag):<BR><tag/><BR>To
compare, here's line 16221 (a properly formed tag):<BR><tag k="waterway"
v="stream"/><BR><BR>The josm developer has put in a better error message
regarding what the problem is, but josm still will not load the
file.<BR><BR>So does this come down to there being a bad tag in the original
Canvec data, or does the conversion script need some
modifying?<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sam Vekemans <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:acrosscanadatrails@gmail.com"
target=_blank>acrosscanadatrails@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Ideas:<BR>-mention this on the irc #osm-dev chat. As a
JOSM develepor might be<BR>able to help further<BR>-zipping : try .bz2
compression, instead of regular zip, maybe it does<BR>something different
to the .osm data?<BR>-at that same time (with that new josm revision, WMS
didnt work for some people)<BR>-josm doesnt automatically update all the
plugins, when you get a new<BR>version of the main exe file,<BR>-Osmosis
is the tool to combine .osm files, i havent yet been<BR>sucessful at
merging them (on the command line)<BR>-each node would need a new ID, when
merging files, maybe there is a<BR>max # of features?<BR>-Also, i'll check
with user:MikeyCarter as he has gone ahead and<BR>converted canvec for the
Barrie Ontario area, using a customized<BR>method.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><FONT
color=#888888>Sam<BR></FONT>
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<DIV><BR>On 4/30/10, Adam Dunn <<A href="mailto:dunnadam@gmail.com"
target=_blank>dunnadam@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> If I understand
correctly, older versions of JOSM would open the file<BR>> correctly,
but new versions will have problems? I'm not the only one
here?<BR>><BR>> I got the josm svn from this morning (rev 3213),
opened it up in Eclipse,<BR>> did some debugging, and see that for
082H04_Sample.osm, the error occurs on<BR>> or near line 16217. It may
not be Josm that is at fault, since it seems to<BR>> handle most other
osm files quite well.<BR>><BR>> Please see <A
href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/4971"
target=_blank>http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/4971</A> for the bug
that I just<BR>> filed.<BR>><BR>> Adam<BR>><BR>> On Fri,
Apr 30, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Daniel Bégin <<A
href="mailto:jfd553@hotmail.com" target=_blank>jfd553@hotmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>>> Hi Adam,<BR>>><BR>>> I looked at
Canvec.osm sample files about one month ago and did not get<BR>>>
any<BR>>> problems with an earlier version of JOSM (before 3196).
I've just tried<BR>>> using JOSM 3196 and I got the same error
message. I'm running on Windows.<BR>>><BR>>> No good
explanation to give :-(<BR>>><BR>>>
Daniel<BR>>><BR>>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>>
From: Adam Dunn [mailto:<A href="mailto:dunnadam@gmail.com"
target=_blank>dunnadam@gmail.com</A>]<BR>>> Sent: April 29, 2010
12:46<BR>>> To: Sam Vekemans<BR>>> Cc: Daniel Bégin; Talk-CA
OpenStreetMap<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm
samples<BR>>><BR>>> I'm getting NullPointerException in JOSM
for all three files, and making<BR>>> sure the line feeds are unix
(since I'm on linux) doesn't help. This is<BR>>> with<BR>>>
JOSM 3208.<BR>>><BR>>> Open file:
/home/adam/Desktop/021L14_sample.osm (2796211 bytes)<BR>>>
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.IllegalDataException:<BR>>>
java.lang.NullPointerException<BR>>> at
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmReader.parseDataSet(OsmReader.java:586)<BR>>>
at<BR>>>
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmImporter.importData(OsmImporter.java:42)<BR>>>
at<BR>>>
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmImporter.importData(OsmImporter.java:34)<BR>>>
at<BR>>><BR>>>
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.FileImporter.importDataHandleExceptions(FileImport<BR>>>
er.java:57)<BR>>> at<BR>>><BR>>>
org.openstreetmap.josm.actions.OpenFileAction$OpenFileTask.importData(OpenFi<BR>>>
leAction.java:263)<BR>>> at<BR>>><BR>>>
org.openstreetmap.josm.actions.OpenFileAction$OpenFileTask.realRun(OpenFileA<BR>>>
ction.java:242)<BR>>> at<BR>>><BR>>>
org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.PleaseWaitRunnable.doRealRun(PleaseWaitRunnable.j<BR>>>
ava:83)<BR>>> at<BR>>><BR>>>
org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.PleaseWaitRunnable.run(PleaseWaitRunnable.java:12<BR>>>
9)<BR>>> at<BR>>>
java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:441)<BR>>>
...... more stack that goes into java api libraries<BR>>> Caused by:
java.lang.NullPointerException<BR>>> at<BR>>>
org.openstreetmap.josm.data.osm.Storage$1.getHashCode(Storage.java:317)<BR>>>
at
org.openstreetmap.josm.data.osm.Storage.getBucket(Storage.java:246)<BR>>>
at
org.openstreetmap.josm.data.osm.Storage.get(Storage.java:196)<BR>>>
at<BR>>>
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmReader$Parser.intern(OsmReader.java:126)<BR>>>
at<BR>>>
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmReader$Parser.startElement(OsmReader.java:273)<BR>>>
at<BR>>><BR>>>
com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.parsers.AbstractSAXParser.startElement(Ab<BR>>>
stractSAXParser.java:501)<BR>>> .... goes further into
xerces<BR>>><BR>>> I don't know if the stacktrace helps, or if
anyone else is having problems<BR>>> with these files. Other .osm
files open up fine on my system. I could<BR>>> submit<BR>>>
this as a bug report to Josm with the sample file, but wanted to check
if<BR>>> anyone else is having problems as
well.<BR>>><BR>>> Adam<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> On
Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Sam Vekemans <<BR>>> <A
href="mailto:acrosscanadatrails@gmail.com"
target=_blank>acrosscanadatrails@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
Thanks,<BR>>> But its oodles of
people who help with the process.<BR>>><BR>>>
Speaking of which, i'll have the complete Ibycus 3.0
Garmin<BR>>> MapSource<BR>>> IMG
files available for download as single (grouped) .zip files<BR>>>
available soon.<BR>>>
It will still be at least a year before we get our map to
that<BR>>> level.<BR>>><BR>>>
Sam<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
<snip><BR>>> For those who
are interesting to have a look at sample datasets,<BR>>>
you<BR>>> can download them from<BR>>><BR>>>
OSM wiki <A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#Sample_Datasets"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#Sample_Datasets</A><BR>>>
<<A href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#Sample_Datasets"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#Sample_Datasets</A>><BR>>>
NRCan <A
href="ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/pub"
target=_blank>ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/pub</A><BR>>><BR>>>
Have fun (I hope!-)<BR>>><BR>>>
Daniel<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
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