Hi,<br>For that, I (we the talk-ca list) did <br>1: Posted a notice on all of the Wiki Pages of people who indicated they were mapping in Canada. (45 or so at the time)<br>-tried to make the Canada wiki page as clear as i could<br>
(<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Srw">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Srw</a>) is an example)<br>* listing it on regional pages also helps<br>2 - announced on the talk-ca list, <br>3 - posted notes on my journal entry<br>
4 - contacted everyone from around my placemark<br>5 - used itoworld (i set a pre-set to each of the major areas) as a way to filter out the bots and see who the top mappers are for each area*<br>6 - i asked each on the talk-ca list to share the news with others (as talk-ca discussions progressed)<br>
7 - we had some mapping parties which also helped (although mapping parties IMO)<br><br>*what is assumed is that those who are the top mappers in the area, would also be the ones who would want to host a regional mapping party & are also the most active.. so they are monitoring the progress of their area quicker. & local people are more likely to respond to other local people.<br>
<br>8 - gave it lots of time (after announcing) <br><br>note that Canada already had/has the Garmin Map Version so this was something that people can use in the mean-time. (ibycus topo)<br><br>So if everyone on the import team were to try their hardest to get more people on the talk-nz list, Perhaps you want to create a OSM - specific mailing list? (since <<a href="mailto:nzopengis@googlegroups.com">nzopengis@googlegroups.com</a>>, ) is generic (and was the 1st for the area).<br>
<br>Your bound to annoy some people, and we certainly did. (even though we dont interfer with their data, it's still an annoying think knowing that your work you did in the last few years, could be easily dropped in in a very short time.<br>
So a solution is to;<br>1 - divide up the area into small .1x.1 degree tiles and make these tiles available for local mappers to drop in the data.<br>2 - doing the above would a) get those local mappers more involved as they know the data doesnt need to be imported & it can be done at any time b) you can really see how OSM has the higher value data (shop names etc) which is also a benifit and c) if your LINZ is older, then you can enjoy seeing how accurate OSM map is.<br>
3 - although this method takes a lot of time, the map will slowely get better (and im sure the back-end servers would be happy too). And it also gives lots of time for errors in the rules.txt files that were used to be spotted & corrected as more users are working with the data<br>
<br><br>My Pocket change,<br>Cheers,<br>Sam<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Frederik Ramm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Robin,<br>
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Robin Paulson wrote:<br>
> we would like to make as many NZ mappers aware of the import as<br>
> possible, firstly to reduce these concerns, and to stop the potential<br>
> outfux of NZ mappers who see themselves being replaced by bots and<br>
> scripts. also, it would of course be beneficial to include more people<br>
> in what we are doing<br>
<br>
</div>Do you not have a talk-nz list or something where this could be<br>
announced? A good idea would also be to create wiki page and link to<br>
this from the changeset comment or so, so that anyone investigating an<br>
edit through the web site will get to read your pamphlet.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> are there any issues with mass contacting either (a) everyone who has<br>
> set their location as in NZ, or (b) everyone who has made an edit<br>
> within NZ? is there an AUP for osm which forbids this?<br>
<br>
</div>Both of these are unwanted; (a) is not possible without actually moving<br>
your own location around in small increments - a certain Russ N.<br>
reputedly has a script that does that and got bollocked for it. (b) is<br>
possible and you might *just* get away with it if you're talking 10 or<br>
20 messages, but not if it is in the hundreds, and especially not if<br>
some of them complain.<br>
<br>
I think it would be nice to have a feature where users can actually<br>
enable a check box in their profile "I wish to be contacted by other<br>
mappers in my area about mapping events or other things of relevance",<br>
and then an interface where you can simply draw a bounding box and say<br>
"send this message to all mappers in this box who have the checkbox ticked".<br>
<br>
But as long as we don't have that, we don't normally mass-email mappers.<br>
<br>
Bye<br>
Frederik<br>
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