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I'm fine with making the island name a point. It would show up in
POI applications. <br>
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On 23/09/10 11:28 AM, Bégin, Daniel wrote:
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="576255114-23092010">Cool, </span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="576255114-23092010">So, what should be
done for the next release?</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="576255114-23092010">- Keep the
natural=land areas - everybody will have to merge each
island to get the proper rendering;</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="576255114-23092010">- Transform the
natural=land areas into points - no merging necessary, no
name lost;</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="576255114-23092010">- Remove the
natural=land areas - name will be lost for next release (1);</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="576255114-23092010">I'm inclided to
implement the second proposition - Easier for me and for
most of the contributors;</span></font></div>
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size="2"><span class="576255114-23092010">Daniel</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="576255114-23092010">1- The name should
be found in both Canvec Island and Named feature
(natural=land areas and place=island points) within the next
year.</span></font></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> September 23, 2010 10:48<br>
<b>To:</b> Bégin, Daniel<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Talk-CA OpenStreetMap<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-ca] Sinking islands...<br>
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I've been taking all three objects and merging them. So the inner
is natural=wood, with name.<br>
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Seems to be rendering ok. Childs and Osawa are examples.<br>
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On 23/09/10 10:38 AM, Bégin, Daniel wrote:
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size="2"><span class="077181914-23092010">You are right :-(</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="077181914-23092010">Two solutions are
possible for the next release...</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="077181914-23092010">- Convert
natural=land area into point feature - the easy solution
to always keep the name available;</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="077181914-23092010">- Associate the
name to the inner component - If it renders properly. </span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="077181914-23092010"></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="077181914-23092010">The second one is
much more complex (from my side). Can someone try it and
send me the </span></font><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"><span class="077181914-23092010">conclusion? </span></font></div>
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size="2"><span class="077181914-23092010">Daniel</span></font></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> September 23, 2010 10:14<br>
<b>To:</b> Bégin, Daniel<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-ca] Sinking islands...<br>
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I notice for islands with names the name tag is on the
natural=land. <br>
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On 23/09/10 10:00 AM, Bégin, Daniel wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Bonjour Michael,
2010-08-16 11:54 [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!
I wrote "natural=land area features are a duplicate of natural=water inner polygon. It will be removed for the next release. Point features will still be there."
I understand that natural=land has priority in the rendering. Rendering will then "move" any overlapping features "under" the natural=land feature. It means you are better remove natural=land area before importing.
The standard case for an island is
- an inner component of a relation type=multipolygon : natural=water
- a polygon : natural=land
- a polygon : natural=wood
Remove the polygon natural=land and the polygon natural=wood will render properly in the hole created by the inner component of the natural=water multipolygon.
Daniel
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Subject: [Talk-ca] Sinking islands...
I was importing data in the Georgian Bay area and I noticed
something. If an island is natural=land it renders in mapnik as white,
regardless of the outer multipolygon. if you have natrual=wood or
possibly others, it sinks if it's not role=inner.
This is at least what I've observed so far. It's rather hard to figure
out when the mapnik tiles get cached and don't refresh in a timely fashion. :-)
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