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class=576255114-23092010>Cool, </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=576255114-23092010>So, what should be done for the next
release?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=576255114-23092010>- Keep the natural=land areas - everybody will have to
merge each island to get the proper rendering;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=576255114-23092010>- Transform the natural=land areas into points - no
merging necessary, no name lost;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=576255114-23092010>- Remove the natural=land areas - name will be
lost for next release (1);</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=576255114-23092010>I'm inclided to implement the second proposition -
Easier for me and for most of the contributors;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=576255114-23092010>Daniel</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=576255114-23092010></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=576255114-23092010>1- The name should be found in both Canvec Island and
Named feature (natural=land areas and place=island points) within the next
year.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> G. Michael Carter
[mailto:mikeycarter1974@gmail.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>G. Michael
Carter<BR><B>Sent:</B> September 23, 2010 10:48<BR><B>To:</B> Bégin,
Daniel<BR><B>Cc:</B> Talk-CA OpenStreetMap<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Talk-ca]
Sinking islands...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I've been taking all three objects and merging them. So the
inner is natural=wood, with name.<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.45968&lon=-80.42647&zoom=16&layers=M">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.45968&lon=-80.42647&zoom=16&layers=M</A><BR><BR><BR>Seems
to be rendering ok. Childs and Osawa are examples.<BR><BR>On
23/09/10 10:38 AM, Bégin, Daniel wrote:
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class=077181914-23092010>You are right :-(</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=077181914-23092010></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=077181914-23092010>Two solutions are possible for the next
release...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=077181914-23092010>- Convert natural=land area into point feature - the
easy solution to always keep the name available;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=077181914-23092010>- Associate the name to the inner component
- If it renders properly. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=077181914-23092010>The second one is much more complex (from my
side). Can someone try it and send me the </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=077181914-23092010>conclusion? </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=077181914-23092010>Daniel</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> G. Michael Carter [<A
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href="mailto:mikeycarter1974@gmail.com">mailto:mikeycarter1974@gmail.com</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>G. Michael Carter<BR><B>Sent:</B> September 23, 2010
10:14<BR><B>To:</B> Bégin, Daniel<BR><B>Cc:</B> Talk-CA
OpenStreetMap<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Talk-ca] Sinking
islands...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>I notice for islands with names the name tag is
on the natural=land. <BR><BR>On 23/09/10 10:00 AM, Bégin, Daniel
wrote:
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cite=mid:A74639302D489647962379CA2C133A4E05E8E15D@s0-ott-x4.nrn.nrcan.gc.ca
type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Bonjour Michael,
2010-08-16 11:54 [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!
I wrote "natural=land area features are a duplicate of natural=water inner polygon. It will be removed for the next release. Point features will still be there."
I understand that natural=land has priority in the rendering. Rendering will then "move" any overlapping features "under" the natural=land feature. It means you are better remove natural=land area before importing.
The standard case for an island is
- an inner component of a relation type=multipolygon : natural=water
- a polygon : natural=land
- a polygon : natural=wood
Remove the polygon natural=land and the polygon natural=wood will render properly in the hole created by the inner component of the natural=water multipolygon.
Daniel
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Subject: [Talk-ca] Sinking islands...
I was importing data in the Georgian Bay area and I noticed
something. If an island is natural=land it renders in mapnik as white,
regardless of the outer multipolygon. if you have natrual=wood or
possibly others, it sinks if it's not role=inner.
This is at least what I've observed so far. It's rather hard to figure
out when the mapnik tiles get cached and don't refresh in a timely fashion. :-)
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