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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bonjour Samuel,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>about the maximum number of nodes you can
upload using JOSM, the only "hard" limitation I'm aware is the changeset
maximum objects number limitation set to 50000 ...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Api06#Capabilities:_GET_.2Fapi.2Fcapabilities<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Usually the problems I encounter
uploading data is OSM server overcharge. I usually don</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>'t get any trouble </span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>uploading
one Canvec sub-tile at a time (Ex: 021E05.3.1.1.osm).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Daniel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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Samuel Longiaru [mailto:longiaru@shaw.ca] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> January-30-11 14:01<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> talk-ca<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Talk-ca] How should
a noob proceed?</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regarding your specific import Sam, could you link to it for us? I<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>see the wooded areas on the border, but that sounds a little further<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>than away from <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kamloops</st1:place></st1:City> than you. Share! ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Were these full size NTS tiles or sub tiles? Are they of a<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>"manageable" size for stitching. How long did it take? Should we<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>make a group effort of stitching before moving on the the next import?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Many open questions. :-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>OK... well if you think that my questions are relevant here... then sure... <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>maybe a wider audience is best anyway. Perhaps I'm falling into the noobie trap<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>of assuming that I'm the only one that doesn't know this stuff.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I've just sent the message (copied below) to Steve Singer who was kind enough yesterday to get back with some <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>pretty specific advice. It's funny in that my questions to him were pretty much right <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>along what you are posing, Richard.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>One file was about 14,500 'objects' and the other 12,500. After merging the CanVec layer<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>and the (almost non-existent) OSM data layer, JOSM choked on the first file upload and got into a <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Retry loop. I figured that 14,000+ points was too big a request and so found the Advanced tab and asked for an upload <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>in 2000 object chunks. That worked. I'm sure that this approach of uploading a whole CanVec file will<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>not be practical once the merges become more complicated and I will sure resort to working on and <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>uploading only small sections of a sheet at a time. But for this area, where there is very little to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>edit, the full file approach works.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I'm just going to work on these two files for the time being, cleaning them up as I import, and learning the <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>procedure better. Also, I just have to get better with JOSM I see. Pretty steep learning curve I've found.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>OK... crux of my message to Steve is below... it includes a link to the area<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks in advance. Sam<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>--------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Steve...<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Last night I imported two adjacent CanVec files... 92I07.0.0 and
92I07.0.1. The process was pretty easy as the only overlap with existing
OSM data was one unpaved road, which I deleted from the CanVec layer before
merging. I went back this morning to review the imports and have a few
questions. If you don't mind, could you please take a look at <a
href="http://osm.org/go/WJ1AWUau">http://osm.org/go/WJ1AWUau</a> and give me
your opinion. I think this small area along the boundary of the two
imports shows most of the issues.<br>
<br>
1) At first, I thought I should get rid of the boundary between the north and
south sheets, but then realized that doing so for each import would eventually
lead to massive relations of wooded area. So would you agree that I
should leave the bounding ways alone, only working on merging or joining
cross-boundary objects such as roads, railroads, etc., or should I treat the
bounding ways somehow ?<br>
<br>
2) I am surprised in that the registry between the different objects in the
CanVec data is not better than it is... at least in this area. For the
most part, the boundary of the wood (whether outer or inner) seems to be
shifted westward in relation to the lake outlines which are at least fairly
consistent with the Bing imagery. This internal shift within the CanVec
data seems to triggering a lot of errors... overlapping areas, crossing ways,
etc. The shift seems to line up across both sheets. Is this
expected, and if so, should I just correct errors as usual, using the Bing
imagery as a guide? Or is this error something that happened when
converting the data to OSM format?<br>
<br>
3) And this is a real noob question... in JOSM some nodes along a single
isolated ways such as lake shores are marked with small boxes and some with
+. Can't seem to find any difference or rhyme or reason. What is
the significance of those?<br>
<br>
Sam <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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