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Dear Pierre,<br>
<br>
According to the shapefile data, Lake Champlain, and hence
Venise-en-Québec are above the 30 m elevation. The shapefile
contains punctual elevations of 31 m in this area (Plage Missisquoi,
for example). The next contour line would be the 40 m one, but it
does not look like it would be very useful for this.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Jean-Guilhem<br>
<br>
<br>
Le 27/05/2011 13:12, Pierre Béland a écrit :
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<div><font size="2">Very thanks to Sam Vekemans, Brent Fraser and
Jean-Guilhem Cailton for their suggestions and help.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote on 201-05-27</font></div>
<div><font color="#000080" size="2"><font color="#000000">> The
30 m contour lines from tiles 031h03 and 031h06 (the
shapefiles you gave), </font></font></div>
<div><font color="#000080" size="2"><font color="#000000">>
potentially connected to Richelieu river, have been
imported, and put together</font></font></div>
<div><font color="#000080" size="2"><font color="#000000">> in
relation: </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1602671">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1602671</a><br>
</font></div>
<div><font color="#000080" size="2"><font color="#000000">Jean-Guilhem,
I will use this information for a basis of discussion, and
see how it can reflect the flooded zones. Could you easily
add to the relation, the 30m elevation for Missisiquoi Bay
where Venise-en-Quebec town has been severely affected by
floods?</font><br>
</font></div>
<div><font color="#000080" size="2">regards,</font></div>
<div> </div>
<font color="#000080" size="2">
<hr style="width: 100px;" color="#b5c4df" size="1" align="left">
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<div><font color="#000080" size="2"><em><span>Pierre Béland</span>
</em></font></div>
<div>2011-05-27<font color="#c0c0c0"> </font> </div>
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<div><font size="2"><strong>De ：</strong> Jean-Guilhem Cailton </font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>Date/heure ：</strong> 2011-05-27
05:19:54 </font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>A ：</strong> Pierre_Béland </font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>Cc ：</strong> Brent Fraser; HOT
Openstreetmap; talk-ca </font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>Sujet ：</strong> Re: [Talk-ca] [HOT]
Flooding in Richelieu River, Quebec, Canada :Follow-up
(Complement of information) </font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2">Hi Pierre,<br>
<br>
<font face="">The 30 m contour lines from tiles 031h03 and
031h06 (the shapefiles you gave), potentially connected to
Richelieu river, have been imported, and put together in
relation:<br>
</font><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1602671"><font
face="">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1602671</font></a><br>
<br>
Clearly, it is not enough to estimate the flooded zone, for
which some kind of flow analysis would be needed, but maybe it
can help in some areas, as you wrote.<br>
<br>
I used "ogr2ogr -where ELEVATION=30 ..." to extract the 30m
contour line, and ogr2osm.py to convert it to .osm, for Josm.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Jean-Guilhem<br>
<br>
<br>
Le 27/05/2011 06:30, Brent Fraser a écrit :
<blockquote cite="mid:4DDF28CC.7040805@geoanalytic.com"
type="cite">Pierre,<br>
<br>
I can't comment on if the 30m contour solution is suitable,
but if you want to extract the 30m contours, you could:<br>
<br>
1. Use QGIS to extract 30m contour from *_FO.._1.shp files<br>
- load shapefile, Open Attribute Table, click on
elevation field name to sort table by elevation value.<br>
- select all 30m values, click on Layer -> Save
selection as vector file. Save shapefile <br>
<br>
2. Use converter (one of the ones on <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Shapefile"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Shapefile</a>)
to create .osm files<br>
(I haven't tried this)<br>
<br>
3. Use Josm to load osm files, tag, and update to OSM<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Best Regards,
Brent Fraser</pre>
<br>
On 5/26/2011 8:46 PM, Pierre Béland wrote:
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<div><font color="#000080" size="2">Many osm volunteers
have worked in the last two days to correct roads,
complete Canvec import and add street names.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#000080" size="2">An other task is to
estimate the flooded zone along the Richelieu River
and Missisquoi Bay in Lake Champlain. </font><font
color="#000080" size="2">One simple approach to
determine the flooded zones would be to use the 30
meter contour line from Canvec data. This would be
good at least for Richelieu River.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#000080">These maps from Natural
Resources Dept of Canada shows the 30 meter contour
line. For the areas I visited last week with
volunteers, this line delimits approximately the
flooded zone. </font><font color="#000080" size="2">On
monday 23, water level of the Richelieu river went up
to approximately 30.8 meters in
Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#000080">Would it be a good solution to
estimate the flooded zone ?</font></div>
<div><font color="#000080">If so, any idea, how we can
extract 30 meter contour line from shape files using a
tool such as Quantum GIS and convert to OSM ?</font></div>
<div><font color="#000080"><a
href="ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/canvec/50k_shp/031/h/"
moz-do-not-send="true">ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/canvec/50k_shp/031/h/</a><a
class="file"
href="ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/canvec/50k_shp/031/h/canvec_031h03_shp.zip"
moz-do-not-send="true">canvec_031h03_shp.zip</a></font></div>
<div><font color="#000080"><a
href="ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/canvec/50k_shp/031/h/"
moz-do-not-send="true">ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/canvec/50k_shp/031/h/</a><a
class="file"
href="ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/canvec/50k_shp/031/h/canvec_031h03_shp.zip"
moz-do-not-send="true">canvec_031h06_shp.zip</a></font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#000080">Below is an example of Toporama
map for Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, the wms version of
Canvec, where we can see the 30 meter contour line.</font></div>
<div><a
href="http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/auth/english/maps/topo/map?mapsize=525%20466&mapxy=1700511.0503883713%20-122536.87132125527&scale=20000.000000&feature_na=Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu&searchstring=saint-jean-sur-richelieu&layers=fapfeature%20nodata_ntdb_50k%20north_arrow%20other_features%20roads%20hydrography%20boundary%20builtup%20vegetation%20populated_places%20railway%20power_network%20manmade_features%20designated_areas%20water_features%20water_saturated_soils%20relief%20contours%20toponymy%20contour&map_layer[northarrow]_class[0]_style[0]=ANGLE%20-19.595747561783185&urlappend=%26unique_key%3D8dd3e319d1e111d892e2080020a0f4c9%26map.layer[textzoom03]%3DFEATURE+POINTS+1699114.16619+-120243.877124+END+TEXT+%22Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu%22+END%26map.layer[textzoom46]%3DFEATURE+POINTS+1699114.16619+-120243.877124+END+TEXT+%22Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu%22+END%26map.layer[arrowzoom03]%3DFEATURE+POINTS+1699114.16619+-120243.877124+END+END"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://atlas.nrcan.gc.
ca/auth/english/maps/topo/map?mapsize=525%20466&mapxy=1700511.0503883713%20-122536.87132125527&scale=20000.000000&feature_na=Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu&searchstring=saint-jean-sur-richelieu&layers=fapfeature%20nodata_ntdb_50k%20north_arrow%20other_features%20roads%20hydrography%20boundary%20builtup%20vegetation%20populated_places%20railway%20power_network%20manmade_features%20designated_areas%20water_features%20water_saturated_soils%20relief%20contours%20toponymy%20contour&map_layer[northarrow]_class[0]_style[0]=ANGLE%20-19.595747561783185&urlappend=%26unique_key%3D8dd3e319d1e111d892e2080020a0f4c9%26map.layer[textzoom03]%3DFEATURE+POINTS+1699114.16619+-120243.877124+END+TEXT+%22Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu%22+END%26map.layer[textzoom46]%3DFEATURE+POINTS+1699114.16619+-120243.877124+END+TEXT+%22Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu%22+END%26map.layer[arrowzoom03]%3DFEATURE+POINTS+1699114.16619+-120243.877124+END+END</a>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#000080">regards</font></div>
<div> </div>
<font color="#000080" size="2">
<hr style="width: 100px;" color="#b5c4df" size="1"
align="left"> </font>
<div><font color="#000080" size="2"><em><span>Pierre
Béland</span> </em></font></div>
<div> </div>
<hr color="#b5c4df" size="1">
<div><font size="2"><strong>De ：</strong> Pierre Béland </font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>Date/heure ：</strong>
2011-05-24 18:59:16 </font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>A ：</strong> HOT Openstreetmap
</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>Cc ：</strong> talk-ca </font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>Sujet ：</strong> [HOT]
Flooding in Richelieu River, Quebec,Canada : Follow-up
(Complement of information) </font></div>
<div><font size="2">
<div><font color="#000080" size="2">Following are the
ways and relation I have produced to document
Richelieu River flooding. </font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#000080">Affected zones (These will
be revised when I obtain more detailed information
on streets / areas affected.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#000080" size="2"><a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/114705927"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/114705927</a>
</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/114705926"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/114705926</a>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#c0c0c0" size="2">
<div><font color="#000080" size="2"><a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/114705928"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/114705928</a></font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/114706976"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/114706976</a>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#000080">Boundary relation that
could be used to produce Indexed map of
streets with tools such as Mapsomatic</font></div>
<div><a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1600039"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1600039</a>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
</font></div>
<div><font color="#000080" size="2"><em><span>Pierre
Béland</span> </em></font></div>
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color="#c0c0c0"><font color="#000080"
face="Verdana" size="2"><em></em></font></font></font></font></font></font> </div>
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