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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>While reviewing the highways I travelled this long weekend (1, 5 to Kamloops, 5 to Clearwater, 1;97 to Sushwap, 1 to Hope, 7 to Vancouver) I came across some new tags on the relations. Taking Highway 7 as an example, the changes were<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>The removal of name=Highway 7<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Changing network=ca_bc_primary to network=CA:BC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On some other relations the tagging nhs=yes was added. <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:NHS&action=history">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:NHS&action=history</a> indicates that this tag was first documented on Sept 6 by NE2.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The name=* tags for the tree of Trans-Canada relations also seems to of been messed up.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am going to be doing some cleanup work on the names, but I’m uncertain what to do with the network tags. I’m unaware of any data consumers who actually use this data and have no strong preferences myself. It does seem wrong to change a consistent tagging standard with no prior discussion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The nhs=* tag also seems useless. When I investigated the NHS during my earlier work on consistent tagging of urban highways I found that NHS status did not mean anything in practical terms and did not correspond to who was responsible for road maintenance, who paid for the road, the condition of the road, the size of the road, the importance of the road, the signing or any other criteria I could think of.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Normally I would do a more detailed investigation but in this case it is easier to fix the problem then fully investigate the exact details of the changes. The relations in question are large relations and I’m not always able to determine when the changes were made through the web interface without timeouts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What are the thoughts of everyone on ca_bc_primary vs. CA:BC and the use of nhs=yes?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cc’ed NE2 since he may have been the one who made the changes.<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>