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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="916165219-02042012">Bonjour Pierre,</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="916165219-02042012">I agree that Nominatim searches are limited since there is almost no Canadian municipal boundaries in osm database. Here is a GeoBase product that contains
Municipal boundaries for some Canadian provinces ...</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="916165219-02042012"><a href="http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/admin/muni/description.html">http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/admin/muni/description.html</a></span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="916165219-02042012">Quebec is not there yet but should be included to the product before next fall.</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="916165219-02042012">This GeoBase product is not cut over 50K map sheets, contrary to the Canvec product. However, it is not available in .osm format. </span></font></div>
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<div><span class="916165219-02042012"><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">About best practices on creating boundary, I'll leave the Canadian community decide about that. However, the osm wiki says that "there now seems to be a consensus of using
the boundary key also on linear ways, with relations used to aggregate these ways if needed." A bit what Paul Norman wrote on this list few days ago.
</font></font></span><span class="916165219-02042012"><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">I know that many of the CA/US border segments already use relations with other counties boundary on the US side.
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<div><span class="916165219-02042012"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">By the way, the Canvec product - Release 10 - will start being generated pretty soon - with linear Municipal boundaries where available :-)</font></span></div>
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<div><span class="916165219-02042012"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Best regards,</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> infosbelas-gps@yahoo.fr [mailto:infosbelas-gps@yahoo.fr]
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<b>Sent:</b> March 20, 2012 14:38<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Talk-ca] Re : Administrative Boundary<br>
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<div><span>Daniel,</span></div>
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<span></span><span>In parallel of of the excellent work you are doing for these imports,
</span><span>I suggest that we pursue the discussion on other aspects since the discussion was going in all directions in 2009-2010. W</span><span>e must have some reflexions on how to import this data properly.</span><br>
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<div><span>We now have a very good map of Canada but Nominatim Searches are limited since in general (at least for Quebec) there are no administrative limits other then provinces. I think that we all agree it should be a priority to define these administrative
limits and assure that we have efficient Nominatim searches. <br>
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<div><span>T</span><span>his information and existing boundaries (ie. provinces, international boundaries) should be treated carefully to assure that Nominatim searches work properly. We already lost some shorelines. Lets not loose our borderlines!<br>
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<div><span>One aspect I think of is when a way overlaps existing ways. I dont know if this has been discussed before. When a way describing the limits of a town or a region overlaps other levels (ie. province, international borders), do we keep this way independant
or integrate with the other information ? And it would be better I think to keep administrative boundaries information separated from other Canvec file imports.<br>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">De :</span></b> "Bégin, Daniel" <Daniel.Begin@RNCan-NRCan.gc.ca><br>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Envoyé le :</span></b> Mardi 20 mars 2012 8h11<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="yiv1110789375437555011-20032012"><span id="yiv1110789375result_box" lang="en"><font size="2"><font face="Arial"><span class="yiv1110789375hps">I do</span>
<span class="yiv1110789375hps">not usually</span> <span class="yiv1110789375hps">
ask</span> <span class="yiv1110789375hps">the same question</span> <span class="yiv1110789375hps">
several times. </span></font></font></span></span><span class="yiv1110789375437555011-20032012"><span lang="en"><font size="2"><font face="Arial"><span class="yiv1110789375hps">As It is the first time I see such a difference between an authoritative content
and Osm Wiki, I think it worth the trouble to ask twice before processing the entire country!</span></font></font></span></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="yiv1110789375437555011-20032012"><span lang="en"><font size="2"><font face="Arial"><span class="yiv1110789375hps">So, as Paul and you are saying the Osm Wiki classification is OK and I didn't received any comment from
other, I'll proceed as the Wiki says.</span></font></font></span></span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> March 19, 2012 22:22<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Talk-ca] Re : Administrative Boundary<br>
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<div><span>The wiki values seems consistent for Quebec and I think that we can avoid to restart this discussion again.<br>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">De :</span></b> "Bégin, Daniel" <Daniel.Begin@RNCan-NRCan.gc.ca><br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"></span></b><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Envoyé le :</span></b> Lundi 19 mars 2012 14h34<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv1110789375-19032012">In Openstreetmap wiki, the admin_level were set to 5,6 and 8 respectively.</span></font></div>
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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv1110789375-19032012">If it is a documented consensus, I'll keep the values of the wiki. If not, I'll use the the values from GeoBase.</span></font></div>
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