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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ahh, you’re absolutely correct. I hadn’t noticed that node. The one I was looking at is <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/30915641">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/30915641</a>, which isn’t part of any relations. One of these two “Quebec” nodes should probably be removed and the remaining one added to the provincial relation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Pierre Béland [mailto:infosbelas-gps@yahoo.fr] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Lester; 'Bruno Remy'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re : [Talk-ca] admin_level of canadian cities<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We should not confuse province and municipality levels.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Quebec city has admin_level=8. See node description <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1781476959">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1781476959</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Quebec province has admin_level=4. See Administrative boundary relationhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/61549 <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0000BF'>Pierre </span></i></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>De :</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Andrew Lester <a-lester@shaw.ca><br><b>À :</b> 'Bruno Remy' <bremy.qc.ca@gmail.com>; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org <br><b>Envoyé le :</b> Jeudi 14 juin 2012 14h13<br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [Talk-ca] admin_level of canadian cities</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yiv464133864><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As far as I can tell, the reason Quebec City is tagged as admin_level=4 is because it’s the capital of the province. As per your linked wiki page, provinces are admin_level=4. For any old non-capital city, they should be tagged admin_level=8. Keep in mind that admin_level=* is primarily intended for use on boundary ways and relations, not the place=* node. The usage of admin_level=*and capital=* on city nodes is part of a proposed feature covering capitals (<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/capital" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/capital</a>). Contrary to what that proposal outlines, the common usage according to Taginfo (<a href="http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/capital#values" target="_blank">http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/capital#values</a>) seems to be that capitals are tagged as capital=[admin level number] (ie. Quebec City would be tagged capital=4).</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew Lester</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Victoria, BC</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Bruno Remy [mailto:bremy.qc.ca@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Talk-ca] admin_level of canadian cities</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>hi,<br><br>What do you suggest for "admin_level" of canadian cities, because i noticed difference between the official Canadian recommendation on Openstreetmap wiki (<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Admin_level#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Admin_level#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries</a>) witch is suggesting LEVEL 8 ... whereas you can check LEVEL 4 for big cities in Canada on Opensstreetmap (Quebec City as instance...)<br><br>So ... do we adjust our admin_level according to the canadian section of openstreetmap's wiki?<br>Or do you suggest to keep on tracks on LEVEL 8 usage... and why?<br clear=all><br>-- <br>Bruno Remy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-ca mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org">Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>