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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s good to see more municipalities opening up their data and open data catching on. Seeing more municipalities writing their own licenses isn’t so good.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Now, on to the more practical questions needed to use the data.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Could you provide a translation of 4.1 and 4.2 of their license? Are these identical to CC BY?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One of the problems with CC BY is the vagueness of the attribution. Some cities regard our attribution as not meeting the CC BY attribution requirements, although I guess that isn’t an issue here because they’ve explicitly said it’s compatible with ODbL, so I have to assume that meeting the ODbL attribution requirements (met by listing on <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors</a>) is sufficient for them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What’s the Import Workgroup you refer to?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lastly, cadastral data is probably the least exciting type of data for OSM. Other data like roads, addresses and even buildings is more useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Pierre Béland [mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> talk-ca<br><b>Subject:</b> [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>After consultation with the</span></span><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <span class=hps>community, the city</span> <span class=hps>of Montreal changed</span> <span class=hps>its</span> <span class=hps>OpenData license</span> the<span class=hps> 28</span> <span class=hps>February 2013.</span> <span class=hps>It is clearly stated</span> <span class=hps>on the page of</span> <span class=hps>the license:</span><br><br><span class=hps>It is similar to</span> <span class=hps>a Creative Commons license</span> <span class=hps>CC-</span>BY. <span class=hps>For example</span>, it is compatible <span class=hps>with the</span> <span class=hps>more restrictive</span> <span class=hps>type</span> <span class=hps>ODbL</span> <span class=hps>licenses such</span> <span class=hps>as</span> <span class=hps>OpenStreetMap</span>.<br><br><span class=hps>See</span> <span class=hps><a href="http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/licence/">http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/licence/</a></span><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On the Open Data day,</span></span><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <span class=hps>Saturday, February 23</span>, representatives of <span class=hps>the city have</span> <span class=hps>also</span> <span class=hps>offered to provide</span> <span class=hps>cadastre data.</span> <span class=hps>This</span> <span class=hps>would</span> <span class=hps>greatly contribute to</span> <span class=hps>enrich the</span> <span class=hps>map of Montreal.</span> <span class=hps>If people are</span> <span class=hps>interested in contributing to</span> <span class=hps>this issue,</span> <span class=hps>please contact me</span>.<span class=hps> </span><br><br><span class=hps>This</span> <span class=hps>is a good news</span> <span class=hps>for the community of</span> <span class=hps>free data</span>, developers <span class=hps>and all those</span> <span class=hps>who believe in a</span> <span class=hps>greater participation of</span> <span class=hps>citizens.</span> <span class=hps>The city of</span> <span class=hps>Montreal, by</span> <span class=hps>amending its</span> <span class=hps>license, contributes to</span> <span class=hps>develop</span> <span class=hps>an eco</span>-system where OpenData<span class=hps> creators</span> <span class=hps>OpenSource developpers</span>, governments <span class=hps>and citizens</span> <span class=hps>collectively contribute to</span> <span class=hps>enrich the information</span> <span class=hps>and dialogue.</span><br><br><span class=hps>We should of course assure with the Import Workgroup that this license is compatible with OSM. </span><br><br><span class=hps>We hope that this</span> <span class=hps>example will be followed</span> <span class=hps>by others,</span> <span class=hps>including</span> <span class=hps>the Government of</span> <span class=hps>Quebec and</span> <span class=hps>Quebec City</span>.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>