<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Hi Paul<br><br>Hi refer to the Import list to be more precise.<br><br>For the translation, my contact at city of Montreal is telling me that they are preparing an english translation but this is not yet available.<br><br>Below is my own translation of 4.1 and 4.2<br><br><div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 191); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><br></div><div id="gt-src-tools"><div id="gt-src-tools-l"><div style="display: inline-block;" id="gt-input-tool"><div id="itamenu"><span class="ita-kd-inputtools-div"></span></div></div></div></div> <span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="hps">4.0</span> Source <span class="hps">Indication</span><span
class="hps"></span><br><br><span class="hps">4.1 You</span> <span class="hps">must include</span> <span class="hps">and</span> <span class="hps">maintain the following notice</span> <span class="hps">on</span> <span class="hps">your copies</span><span>, modifications,</span> <span class="hps">translations and</span> <span class="hps">distributions</span> <span class="hps">of</span> <span class="hps">data</span><span>:</span><br><br> <span class="hps">Contains data</span> <span class="hps">reproduced, modified,</span> <span class="hps">translated</span> <span class="hps">or distributed</span> <span class="hps">"as is"</span> <span class="hps">with permission</span> <span class="hps">of the City of</span> <span class="hps">Montreal.</span><br><br><span class="hps">4.2 If a</span> <span class="hps">product</span> <span class="hps">contains</span> <span class="hps">value-added</span> <span class="hps">data</span><span>, you must
include</span> <span class="hps">the following opinion on</span> <span class="hps">this product:</span><br><br> <span class="hps">This product contains</span> <span class="hps">licensed</span> <span class="hps">data</span> <span class="hps">given</span> <span class="hps">"as is"</span> <span class="hps">in accordance with</span> <span class="hps">the license agreement</span> <span class="hps">for the use of</span> <span class="hps">data from the City</span> <span class="hps">of Montreal.</span> <span class="hps">The granting of the</span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="hps"></span> <span class="hps">license is not</span> <span class="hps">an endorsement of the</span> <span class="hps">product</span> <span class="hps">by the City of</span> <span class="hps">Montreal.</span></span><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 191); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: italic;"><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Paul Norman <penorman@mac.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> 'Pierre Béland' <pierzenh@yahoo.fr>; 'talk-ca' <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Samedi 2 mars 2013 15h58<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> RE: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal<br> </font> </div> <br><meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off"><div id="yiv323939936"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv323939936WordSection1"><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">It’s good to see more municipalities opening up their data and open data catching on. Seeing more municipalities writing their own licenses isn’t so good.</span></div><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Now, on to the more practical questions needed to use the data.</span></div><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Could you provide a translation of 4.1 and 4.2 of their license? Are these identical to CC BY?</span></div><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">One of the problems with CC BY is the vagueness of the attribution. Some cities regard our attribution as not meeting the CC BY attribution requirements, although I guess that isn’t an issue here because they’ve explicitly said it’s compatible with ODbL, so I have to assume that meeting the ODbL attribution requirements (met by listing on <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors</a>) is sufficient for them.</span></div><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">What’s the Import Workgroup you refer to?</span></div><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Lastly, cadastral data is probably the least exciting type of data for OSM. Other data like roads, addresses and even buildings is more useful.</span></div><div
class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";"> Pierre Béland [mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> talk-ca<br><b>Subject:</b> [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal</span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv323939936MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"><br></span><span
class="yiv323939936hps"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN">After consultation with the</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN"> <span class="yiv323939936hps">community, the city</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">of Montreal changed</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">its</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">OpenData license</span> the<span class="yiv323939936hps"> 28</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">February 2013.</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">It is clearly stated</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">on the page of</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">the license:</span><br><br><span class="yiv323939936hps">It is similar to</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">a Creative Commons license</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">CC-</span>BY. <span class="yiv323939936hps">For example</span>,
it is compatible <span class="yiv323939936hps">with the</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">more restrictive</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">type</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">ODbL</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">licenses such</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">as</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">OpenStreetMap</span>.<br><br><span class="yiv323939936hps">See</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/licence/">http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/licence/</a></span><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"><br></span><span class="yiv323939936hps"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN">On the Open Data day,</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN">
<span class="yiv323939936hps">Saturday, February 23</span>, representatives of <span class="yiv323939936hps">the city have</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">also</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">offered to provide</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">cadastre data.</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">This</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">would</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">greatly contribute to</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">enrich the</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">map of Montreal.</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">If people are</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">interested in contributing to</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">this issue,</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">please contact me</span>.<span class="yiv323939936hps"> </span><br><br><span class="yiv323939936hps">This</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">is a good news</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">for the community of</span> <span
class="yiv323939936hps">free data</span>, developers <span class="yiv323939936hps">and all those</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">who believe in a</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">greater participation of</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">citizens.</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">The city of</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">Montreal, by</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">amending its</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">license, contributes to</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">develop</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">an eco</span>-system where OpenData<span class="yiv323939936hps"> creators</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">OpenSource developpers</span>, governments <span class="yiv323939936hps">and citizens</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">collectively contribute to</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">enrich the information</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">and dialogue.</span><br><br><span
class="yiv323939936hps">We should of course assure with the Import Workgroup that this license is compatible with OSM. </span><br><br><span class="yiv323939936hps">We hope that this</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">example will be followed</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">by others,</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">including</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">the Government of</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">Quebec and</span> <span class="yiv323939936hps">Quebec City</span>.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="on"><br><br> </div> </div> </blockquote></div> </div></body></html>