<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Richard,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I understand that you would prefer that this evolves differently, but lets focus on the subject and try to progress in the right direction. This url http://www.data.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&n=0D3F42BD-1 describe proposed license for the government of Canada Open data site to be effective soon. Following discussions with provincial governments some agree if not all to use the same license. This is the case of the government of Quebec.<br></span></div><br>Could OSM contributors
help to progress in the right direction and
comment about the license? After that we will be able to focus on
obtaining more data.<br><br>The questionI ask yout to answer : Is this proposed license compatible or not to import data into OSM.<br><br> <div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br></span><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Richard Weait <richard@weait.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> Pierre Béland <pierzenh@yahoo.fr> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc :</span></b> talk-ca <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Vendredi 15 mars 2013
7h04<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Talk-ca] Licence donnees.gouv.qc.ca<br> </font> </div> <br><meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off"><div id="yiv1583572065"><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv1583572065gmail_extra"><div class="yiv1583572065gmail_quote">2013/3/14 Pierre Béland <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a>></span><br><blockquote class="yiv1583572065gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><div><br><div><span style="font-style:italic;"></span><span lang="en">[ ... ] This <span>license</span> <span>is said to be derived from </span><span>the United</span> <span>Kingdom license which</span> <span>is said to be</span> <span>compatible with the</span> <span>ODbL</span> <span>(and thus</span> <span>OSM</span> <span>)</span><span>.</span><br>
<br><span>I would appreciate</span> <span>your comments</span> <span>on this.</span></span><span class="yiv1583572065"></span></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>All right. You asked. :-) <br><br></div><div>
The governments, municipal, provincial and federal, who choose to create or modify an Open Data license are hurting Open Data. The first stab wound was the misguided Vancouver Open Data license and we have not yet stopped the bleeding. <br>
</div><br>Modifying an Open Data license is similar to declaring that "in my municipality, we will use a modification of a standard electrical appliance plug and socket." The plug from a Waterloo Region toaster may be incompatible with an socket in Quebec City in obvious or subtle ways. <br>
</div><br></div><div class="yiv1583572065gmail_extra">Household appliances might move periodically when an owner moves, or when an appliance is sent as a gift. Open Data, by definition, is intended to be combined and compared and moved about, further and more often than a simple appliance. <br>
<br>We've been clever enough to standardize our appliance plugs across the continent. It is important to standardize our Open Data licenses around the world. <br><br></div><div class="yiv1583572065gmail_extra">Governments. Use the Open Data licenses drafted and curated by the Open Data Commons at the Open Knowledge Foundation. You (governments) do not have the mandate from your citizens to spend their money to learn the things that you need to know about international data law that are required to draft a rational Open Data license. To do so in each municipality and province is a phenomenal waste of resources. And you don't have the mandate to consume resources to maintain that license once you draft it. International data law is new and evolving. You can't keep up. <br>
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