<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Oups I was wrong in identifiying the polygons in JOSM. <br><br>These are two adjacent polygons, the city being surrounded by the township. The difference in spelling comes from the alt_name=Langley. <br><br>I should have mapped for the Night of the living map instead. Or maybe not!<br><div> </div><div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br></span><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Pierre Béland
<pierzenh@yahoo.fr><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> William Rieck <billr@thinkers.org>; Paul Norman <penorman@mac.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc :</span></b> talk-ca <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Vendredi 21 février 2014 21h53<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4610728655"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div id="yiv4610728655"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">Looking at the Township and City of Langley, I see that these relations are
duplicate polygons that share the exact same nodes. Then why two relations? Instead, would it be better to simply use alt_name for the city, added to the Township of Langley. Such Classification where you have two admin_level=8 for the same area is a nonsense to my point of view. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">To show the inconsistencies that this creates, let's have a look at the Nominatim links below. You will see how the Locality, Suburb, Residential highways etc. are shared between the two. And most of the item are classified under the Township. Some other
elements under the City. But searching Nominatims, you will see places classified either und the Township, the City of simply Langley.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">For example, if you search in Nominatim for <br clear="none"><ul><li>Livingstone, <span style="font-weight:bold;">Langley</span>. Canada, this will be reported as <span class="yiv4610728655name">Livingstone, Township of Langley, Greater Vancouver Regional District, British-Columbia, Canada</span></li><li><span class="yiv4610728655name">10 Avenue, <span style="font-weight:bold;">Township of Langley,</span> Greater Vancouver Regional District, Colombie-Britannique, Canada</span></li><li><span class="yiv4610728655name"><span style="font-weight:bold;">Brookswood, Township of Langley</span>, Greater Vancouver Regional District, Colombie-Britannique, Canada</span></li><li><span class="yiv4610728655name">201A Street, <span style="font-weight:bold;">Brookswood, Langley</span>, Greater Vancouver
Regional District, Colombie-Britannique, Canada</span></li></ul><br clear="none">The best seems to
make a choice for which locality title will be showed to describe Langley and use an alt_name tag to describe the second appellation<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><ul class="yiv4610728655results-list" id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1392914239634_101424"><li id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1392914239634_101425"><div class="yiv4610728655inner12 yiv4610728655search_results_entry yiv4610728655clearfix" id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_16_1392914239634_29">City Boundary <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4610728655set_position" id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_16_1392914239634_33" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2031947">Township of Langley, Greater Vancouver Regional District, Colombie-Britannique,
Canada<br clear="none">http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2031947<br clear="none">http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=9164399767<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></a></div></li><li id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1392914239634_101426"><div class="yiv4610728655inner12 yiv4610728655search_results_entry yiv4610728655clearfix" id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_16_1392914239634_23">City Boundary <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4610728655set_position" id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_16_1392914239634_36" target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2031946">City of Langley, Greater Vancouver Regional District, Colombie-Britannique, Canada<br clear="none">http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2031946<br clear="none">http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=98083231<br clear="none"></a></div></li></ul><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div
id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_16_1392914239634_8"><span></span></div><div id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_16_1392914239634_10"> </div><div id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1392914239634_101283"><span id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_16_1392914239634_12" style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br clear="none"></span><br id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_16_1392914239634_14" clear="none"></div> <div class="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_16_1392914239634_16" id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_16_1392914239634_17" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div class="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1392914239634_101090" id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1392914239634_101285" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1392914239634_101284">
<hr size="1"> <font id="yiv4610728655yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1392914239634_101287" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> William Rieck <billr@thinkers.org><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">À :</span></b> Paul Norman <penorman@mac.com> <br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc :</span></b> talk-ca <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Vendredi 21 février 2014 12h09<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name?<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv4610728655y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv4610728655yqt1068502643" id="yiv4610728655yqt62919"><div class="yiv4610728655yqt5169186001" id="yiv4610728655yqt92164"><div id="yiv4610728655"><div><div dir="ltr"><div
class="yiv4610728655gmail_extra"><div class="yiv4610728655gmail_quote"><div>Hi Paul, I was following your message until this statement, where I got confused. Are you saying the
city of Langley is not a city? What do you mean by "in British English"?</div>
<div class="yiv4610728655yqt6655193868" id="yiv4610728655yqtfd63779"><div> </div><blockquote class="yiv4610728655gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv4610728655"></div>
<br clear="none">
That's all fairly simple, but the place node is more complicated. Langley is<br clear="none">
not a "city" in British English, but a "town".<br clear="none"></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv4610728655yqt6655193868" id="yiv4610728655yqtfd82444">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Talk-ca mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org">Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="yqt1068502643" id="yqt49677">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Talk-ca mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org"
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