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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Cette disparité dans les formats
      proposés vient principalement du fait que les données sont issues
      de plusieurs traitements différents :<br>
      - Les données brutes d'OSM (pbf)<br>
      - Les données exportées en temps réel au travers d'une requête
      pré-écrite via Overpass (xml et json)<br>
      - Des données retravaillées à la main et qui peuvent donc convenir
      à d'autres usages (shp notamment)<br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Pierre</pre>
      Le 07/04/2014 01:21, Pierre Béland a écrit :<br>
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        <div><span>Pascal</span></div>
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            j'ai donné, tu peux voir les différentes données publiées.
            Je constate que les données sont publiées sous différents
            formats. Surprenant, ils proposent des formats différents
            d'une donnée à l'autre (ie. pbf, xml, json, shp). Ils
            auraient sans doute avantage à uniformiser les formats
            offerts.</span></div>
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        <div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0,
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                    style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Pascal
                Robichaud <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pascal.robichaud.do101@gmail.com"><pascal.robichaud.do101@gmail.com></a><br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b>
                Pierre Béland <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr"><pierzenh@yahoo.fr></a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc :</span></b>
                Talk- CA Open Street Map
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org"><talk-ca@openstreetmap.org></a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b>
                Dimanche 6 avril 2014 23h19<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b>
                Re: [Talk-ca] SOTM-fr<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Tu veux dire qu'ils publient
                    directement en format 'OpenStreetMap'???
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                    <div>Pascal</div>
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                    <div class="yiv8752391905gmail_quote">Le 6 avril
                      2014 16:54, Pierre Béland <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                      a écrit :<br clear="none">
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                                <span>Je viens d'assister à trois jours
                                  très intéressants au SOTM de Paris. Le
                                  premier jour nous étions dans les
                                  locaux administratifs de
                                  l'Ile-de-France. Les deux jours
                                  suivants nous étions dans un espace de
                                  style pépinière de talents comme
                                  celles où nous aimons nous rencontrer
                                  à Montréal notamment. Et en plus dans
                                  le quartier le Sentier juste à côté du
                                  passage du Caire. Ambiance garantie.</span></div>
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                                Les échanges ont été très fructueux.
                                Présentations plus formelles les deux
                                premiers jours suivis d,un BarCamp
                                dimanche. Les vidéos vont être publiés
                                bientôt j'espère.</div>
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                                intéressant pour nous, on a mentionné
                                que des extraits OpenStreetMap sous
                                forme de couchs thématiques sont
                                publiées sur le site de données ouvertes
                                du gouvernement français. Très
                                rassembleur tout cela. Espérons que nous
                                arriverons là un jour au Québec aussi.</div>
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style="text-decoration:none!important;color:#000000!important;"><span
style="margin:0;font-weight:normal;margin-bottom:4px;font-size:18px;line-height:21px;max-height:43px;color:#000000;overflow:hidden!important;display:inline-block;">OpenStreetMap
                                                - data.gouv.fr</span></a>
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                                            target="_blank"
                                            href="http://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/organization/openstreetmap"
style="text-decoration:none!important;"><span
style="display:inline-block;line-height:11px;max-width:348px;min-width:288px;overflow:hidden;max-height:13px;"><span
style="vertical-align:middle;font-size:9px;line-height:11px;color:#999999;">Afficher
                                                sur <span
                                                  style="font-weight:bold;">www.data.gouv.fr</span></span></span></a></div>
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style="vertical-align:middle;font-size:9px;line-height:11px;color:#999999;">Aperçu
                                            par Yahoo</span></div>
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                      <div><font color="#000000"><b>Pourquoi le mot <i>hackons</i>?
                            Êtes-vous des hackers informatiques?</b></font></div>
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                      <div><font color="#000000">Nous ne sommes pas des
                          "hackers" au sens original du terme. Ainsi,
                          nous ne sommes pas des pirates informatiques
                          et nous n'obtenons pas les données de façon
                          illicite. Toutes nos démarches et nos
                          activités sont légales.</font></div>
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                      <div><font color="#000000">Le mot hackons
                          s'inscrit ici dans l'esprit des <i>hackathons
                          </i>(voir sur </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          helvetica, sans-serif;"><font color="#000000">Wikipédia</font></a><span
                          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">), ces événements
                          qui ont pris de l'ampleur au cours des
                          dernières années, où des citoyens se
                          rassemblent autour d'une problématique afin
                          d'y apporter différentes solutions,
                          habituellement avec un aspect informatique.</span></div>
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                      <div><font color="#000000">Cette approche s'est
                          elle-même élargie, étant à la base
                          essentiellement destinée aux programmeurs (ou
                          geek), jusqu'à inclure tout citoyen voulant
                          collaborer, même s'il n'a pas une expertise en
                          informatique. Il faut donc comprendre le nom
                          du projet, Hackons la corruption, dans la
                          volonté de ses participants à vouloir faire
                          leur part, selon leurs compétences et leurs
                          expériences, dans la lutte à la corruption.</font></div>
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