<div dir="ltr"><div>Those kind of attribution terms are (imo) too conservative considering that they can be applicable for old-school "spreadsheets-like" datawiz , but can't definitively not be applicable to geospatial data.<br><br></div><div>How do you manage the crowdsourcing of data in a single place, while zooming in and out? <br></div><div></div><div>-traffic lights, hydrants, maxspeeds coming from municipality,<br></div><div>-natural parcs, main roads names, leisure parcs from provincial<br></div><div>-highways, rivers, woods from federal<br><br></div><div>Attribution with the tag [source="xxxxxx"] should be the standard (and this is the case in many many others countries in the world.....).<br><br><br></div><div>This is a little bit disapointing....<br><br></div><div>cheers,<br><br></div><div>Bruno<br></div><div><br><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-11 20:42 GMT-04:00 john whelan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">> I thought I read on this list in the past that OSM had permission directly from NRCan to use the CanVec data. <br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">That permission was given before the change of license and upload clause.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio John<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 October 2015 at 20:19, Bernie Connors <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:berniejconnors@gmail.com" target="_blank">berniejconnors@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial" lang="en-US"> <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I thought I read on this list in the past that OSM had permission directly from NRCan to use the CanVec data. </div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Bernie. </div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">BTW, the GeoNB Open Data Licence in New Brunswick is more permissive with its attribution clause. We use "should" instead of "must" therefore it is not a requirement, just a suggestion. </div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a href="http://geonb.snb.ca/documents/license/geonb-odl_en.pdf" target="_blank">http://geonb.snb.ca/documents/license/geonb-odl_en.pdf</a></div> <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="display:initial"></div> <div style="font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.</div> <table style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> <div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;font-family:Tahoma,'BB Alpha Sans','Slate Pro';font-size:10pt"> <div><b>From: </b>john whelan</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:19 PM</div><div><b>To: </b>Bruno Remy</div><div><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a></div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Talk-ca] Federal licence : Confusion</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(186,188,209);border-top-width:1pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">The agreement between CANVEC and OSM was drawn up before the .odbl license and change to the uploading procedure which says any data uploaded to OSM can have its license changed.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I'm of the opinion that the CANVEC licensed data cannot now be imported into OSM under the new conditions however others in Talk-ca have said that I don't know what I'm talking about.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">In other words don't ask, don't tell and let's face it without the CANVEC data there would be very little left.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio John<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-11 19:06 GMT-04:00 Bruno Remy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bremy.qc.ca@gmail.com" target="_blank">bremy.qc.ca@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>[English message will follow]<br><br clear="all"></div>Bonjour à tous,<br><br></div>OpenStreetMap utilise les données de CANVEC.<br>Les données ouvertes de CANVEC proviennent de Ressources naturelles Canada.<br></div>outes les données Ressources naturelles Canada sont assujetties à la <a href="http://ouvert.canada.ca/fr/licence-du-gouvernement-ouvert-canada" title="Licence du gouvernement ouvert – Canada" target="_blank">Licence du gouvernement ouvert – Canada.</a></div>La Licence du gouvernement ouvert – Canada comporte une clause d'attribution contraignante pour OSM et incompatible avec notre licence ODBL.<br></div><div></div><br></div>Alors? Que fait-on? ....<br><div><div>----<br></div><div>Hi folks,<br><br></div><div>OpenStreetMaps imports CANVEC data.<br></div><div>CANVEC OpenData are provided by Natural Resources Canada.<br></div><div>All Natural Resources Canada data are subject to the <a href="http://open.canada.ca/en/open-government-licence-canada" title="Open Government Licence – Canada" target="_blank">Open Government Licence – Canada.</a></div><div><div><div>Open Government Licence - Canada includes a restrictive attribution term witch is not compatible with our ODBL licence.<br><br></div><div>So ... What ? .....<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><span><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><span><font color="#888888"><div><div><br><div>-- <br><div>Bruno Remy</div>
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