<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466878851506_14945">Au Québec comme en Colombie-Britannique et sans doute dans les autres provinces, ce sont effectivement des routes publiques construites et utilisées principalement pour le transport du bois. Il est possible d'y circuer pour des activités récréatives telles chasse et pêche. Cependant, les camions remorque lourdement chargés roulent vite, au milieu de la route et projettent des cailloux. ! La surface peut aussi être inégale. Plusieurs utilisent des véhicules 4x4 jugeant trop risqué d'utiliser une voiture.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466878851506_15045"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466878851506_15044">Il est difficile de classifier ces routes, de décrire l'état de la route et les risques associés. Des contributeurs à distance avec un projet Maproulette n'auraient pas l'info adéquate pour classifier ces routes et y ajouter les clés adéquates pour décrire l'état de ces routes.</div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"> </span><br><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"></span><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466878851506_14794" class="signature"><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"><font face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </font><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466878851506_14795" class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466878851506_14799" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466878851506_14798" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466878851506_14797" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, linéale; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466878851506_14796" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466878851506_14800" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Martijn van Exel <m@rtijn.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> Stewart C. Russell <scruss@gmail.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc :</span></b> "talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> samedi 25 juin 2016 10h53<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Talk-ca] aerial imagery for missing roads<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4794932360"><div><div class="yiv4794932360">Should we assume that a reasonable amount of these private or even dangerous routes have been mapped as public, potentially routable? What would be a good way to inspect these? Do we have reference data on these logging roads? A MapRoulette challenge could be useful.</div><div class="yiv4794932360"><br class="yiv4794932360" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv4794932360">Martijn</div><div class="yiv4794932360"><br class="yiv4794932360" clear="none"><div class="yiv4794932360"><div><blockquote class="yiv4794932360" type="cite"><div class="yiv4794932360yqt4823267567" id="yiv4794932360yqtfd33220"><div class="yiv4794932360">On Jun 24, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Stewart C. Russell <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4794932360" ymailto="mailto:scruss@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:scruss@gmail.com">scruss@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="yiv4794932360Apple-interchange-newline" clear="none"><div class="yiv4794932360"><span class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">Most logging roads, certainly in BC, are private. While they look large,</span><br class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><span class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">and make tempting additions to the map, accidentally routing traffic</span><br class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><span class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">along them could be fatal. Logging trucks don't (can't!) stop, and</span><br class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><span class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">unless you have authorization and the right radio to call in the</span><br class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><span class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">checkpoints, the controller won't be able to tell you if there's a truck</span><br class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><span class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">coming that you need to get out of the way of.</span><br class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><br class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><span class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">CanVec also mistakenly digitized a bunch of private wind farm access</span><br class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><span class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">roads in Ontario, such as<span class="yiv4794932360Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4794932360" target="_blank" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/39334427" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/39334427</a><span class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;"><span class="yiv4794932360Apple-converted-space"> </span>.</span><br class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><span class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">While using these might not be life-threatening, it is trespassing to</span><br class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><span class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">use them.</span><br class="yiv4794932360" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"></div></div></blockquote></div><div 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