<p dir="ltr">I suspect that Stats Canada has an official party line and Bjenk's email shows all the signs of a press release.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I've met with some of the people involved and my impression is that some managers find the idea that OpenStreetMap does not have a CEO who makes decisions very difficult to accept.</p>
<p dir="ltr">However the impression I got is that for the pilot what they would like is a few tags adding to existing buildings. These would be things such as postcode and the number of stories using tags that are already in wide use within OSM. Having said that different people within Stats Canada probably have their own ideas and part of Bjenk's role will be to reconcile everything together.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheerio John</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 18 Jul 2016 12:51 pm, "Pierre Béland" <<a href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div>Bonjour <font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt">Bjenk</span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt">Les contributeurs de certains pays ont des organisations plus structurées, ce qui n'est pas le cas au Canada.</span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br></span></font></div><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt">La coordination des contributeurs canadiens se fait via cette liste-ci (ie. discussion et coordonnation) et via divers groupes locaux tels Ottawa, Toronto, Montréal, Québec, etc. <br></span></font><div><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt"></span></font><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt"></span></font><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt"></span></font><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt">Le mieux est de présenter vos projets sur la liste et inviter les groupes intéressés à vous contacter.</span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt">Les contributeurs s'intéressent à diverses problématiques et pourraient par exemple vous proposer d'intégrer des informations relatives aux types d'accès aux immeubles publics par les handicapés.<br></span></font></div><div><span></span> <br></div><div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0,0,191);font-weight:bold"> <br><font face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </font><br></span></div><div><br><br></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,linéale;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">De :</span></b> john whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">À :</span></b> "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <<a href="mailto:bjenk.ellefsen@canada.ca">bjenk.ellefsen@canada.ca</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc :</span></b> Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <<a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Envoyé le :</span></b> lundi 18 juillet 2016 12h07<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt">Board of Directors<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></font></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt"><font face="Calibri">I don't think there is such a thing on talk-ca.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></font></span></font></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt"><font face="Calibri"><font face="Calibri">Cheerio John</font><br clear="none"></font></span></font></div></div><div><br clear="none"><div>On 18 July 2016 at 11:27, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">bjenk.ellefsen@canada.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and Integration Lab at Statistics Canada. </div>
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<div>I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada initiated a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of data crowdsourcing for statistical purposes. </div>
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<div>We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting contributors to crowdsource information on non-residential buildings (footprints, addresses and simple building attributes). The pilot project will focus on the Ottawa-Gatineau region. </div>
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<div>We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people from five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities of Ottawa and Gatineau. </div>
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<div>In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul Norman. At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have done quite a lot of background research and planning since then (although much learning remains to be done).
The preliminary idea has evolved in a proof of concept proposal and, from there, into the current project. </div>
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<div>Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local (Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in the coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca. </div>
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<div>This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There are a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about (including the IT dimension, communications, legal aspects, etc.). </div>
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<div>For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and much curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a reality but, as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess its potential from the perspective
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<div>One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is championing the innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen interest in this project. At some point, we would like to have an “institutional” meeting between Statistics Canada and
OSM (although I am not quite sure in which shape and form this can take place). I am open to your suggestions. </div>
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<div>I am copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who will follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on Talk-Ca. </div>
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<div>I look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on this project. </div>
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<div>I will soon write more about the project!</div>
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