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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Simply said,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Looks like the original ways were linked to other ones by someone from Telenav (according to reasonable image interpretation) but they should not according
to actual feature on the ground. The user is asking the changeset to be reverted, especially since the Bing imagery identified as source does not allow that interpretation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Daniel
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">PS: Above is an understandable Google Translate of user’s main concerns extracted from his emails …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">438953406 path (north of Lake Blanche)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are chalets if you come from the west (Chemin du Ruisseau) and houses<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">if you come from the west (Chemin Bastin). In between, there is nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(I was there yesterday and I affirm)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">438953407 path (south of Lake White)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are chalets if you come from the west (Lake Road to the White) and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">houses if you come from the west (Oneida Way). In between, there is nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(I was there yesterday and I affirm)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">TeleNav has included the following comment in its group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">changes "added ways [Bing]"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">To my knowledge, there is no Bing imagery in this area.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This change is also part of 4168708 group that deserves to be overthrown<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Mihai Iepure [mailto:mihai.iepure@telenav.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 20 September, 2016 03:46<br>
<b>To:</b> talk-ca<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-ca] Erreurs créées par des non-locaux<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My name is Mihai, I’m a map analyst at Telenav.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As far as my French goes, in the last emails there have been some discussions regarding some of our edits in Canada, especially with
changeset #41680708, ways 438953406 and 438953407. I can confirm that we’ve been doing edits using our ImproveOSM tool, using the
<i>source=improve_osm_tn</i> k/v pair.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I have a request, can someone write a short summary in English of the last emails in order to have a better understanding of the issue
and how we can address this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mihai<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Pierre Béland [</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr"><span lang="RO">mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr</span></a></span><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> dega <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:gadelap@gmail.com"><span lang="RO">gadelap@gmail.com</span></a></span><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">>;
talk-ca <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org"><span lang="RO">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</span></a></span><span lang="RO" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-ca] Erreurs créées par des non-locaux<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="RO"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Dega,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Bon je poursuis lecture a rebours de tes courriels. Oui il y a une façon simple d'avoir une image d'une zone à un instant précis.
Voici une requête Overpass. Il faut zoomer sur la zone a analyser et modifier la date. Puis on clique pour exécuter.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span lang="RO" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">La requête suivante permet elle d'analyser l'historique de OSM et de voir les chemins ajoutés depuis
aout 2016 contenant la clé source=improve_osm_tn. On peut en repérer plusieurs autour de Mont-Tremblant.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span lang="RO" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">De :</span></b><span lang="RO" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"> dega <</span><span lang="RO"><a href="mailto:gadelap@gmail.com"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">gadelap@gmail.com</span></a></span><span lang="RO" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">><br>
<b>À :</b> talk-ca <</span><span lang="RO"><a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</span></a></span><span lang="RO" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">>
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<b>Envoyé le :</b> lundi 19 Septembre 2016 14h33<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [Talk-ca] Erreurs créées par des non-locaux<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Je viens de découvrir qu'un problème identique s'est produit sur le Chemin de <br>
la Presqu'Ile (au nord du Lac Cornu, chemin 438953404). Le chemin a été <br>
prolongé jusqu'au Chemin Chaloux, ce qui ne correspond pas à la réalité.<br>
J'aimerais bien connaître la méthodologie de biancah_telenav.<br>
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Ce changement fait aussi partie du groupe 4168708 qui mérite d'être renversé.<br>
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Est-ce qu quelqu'un connaît une façon de visualiser la carte à une date <br>
donnée?<br>
Est-ce qu'il existe une archive des tuiles OSM?<br>
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dega<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Le 19 septembre 2016, 14:12:57 dega a écrit :<br>
> Une personne dont le surnom est biancah_telenav a récemment effectué des<br>
> modifications qui réduisent la qualité de notre carte. Il s'agit des deux<br>
> ensembles de modifications suivants:<br>
> - groupe 41680708 sur le chemin 438953406 (au nord du lac de La Blanche)<br>
> - groupe 41680708 sur le chemin 438953407 (au sud du Lac de la Blanche)<br>
> Cette personne est "novice" (inscrite depuis moins de 2 mois) mais a fait<br>
> plus de 700 modifications. J'oserais dire qu'elle est de la région de<br>
> Detroit. Il est temps que quelqu'un lui dise que la qualité est plus<br>
> importante que la quantité.<br>
> Je suis allé vérifier "de visu" et j'affirme que les 2 prolongements de<br>
> chemins qui ont été faits par biancah_telenav n'existent pas.<br>
> Je considère que ces 2 erreurs sont graves car, un jour, quelqu'un utilisera<br>
> la carte OSM pour longer le Lac de la Blanche et ce quelqu'un se retrouvera<br>
> dans un précipice.<br>
> Je demande à ceux qui savent faire à ce que ce groupe de modifications soit<br>
> renversé.<br>
> Bonne semaine à tous!<br>
> <br>
> dega<br>
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