<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Let's go back to my full statement: <br><br><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148)">The City of Ottawa has adopted it with some minor changes. At the
municipal level the license has been approved by OpenStreetMap's legal
working group.<br></span><span style="color:rgb(224,102,102)"><br></span><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="color:rgb(224,102,102)">Stewart>This is not the case, unfortunately.</span><br><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">If the Ottawa license is used with a change of municipal name then I do not see what the problem is. Ontario and Toronto licenses are different and were derived from a different source to my understanding. I accept these may not be compatible with OSM and before their use they need to be verified. I think Jamie has already raised the issue that if Open Data is used the license might be an issue.<br><br></span></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Cheerio John<br></span></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 April 2017 at 17:22, Stewart C. Russell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scruss@gmail.com" target="_blank">scruss@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 2017-04-03 01:22 PM, john whelan wrote:<br>
> … At the municipal level the license has been approved by<br>
<span class="">> OpenStreetMap's legal working group.<br>
<br>
</span>This is not the case, unfortunately. This from personal communication<br>
from Simon Poole of the OSM Foundation's legal team from March 2017:<br>
<br>
>> [The Ontario and Toronto licences] illustrate why we didn't want to<br>
>> make a blanket statement wrt OGL licence variants in CA and why in<br>
>> general the situation is a bit of a mess.<br>
<br>
All individual OGL variants need approval from the legal working group.<br>
<br>
So perhaps the OGL licensing route wouldn't be the best route: a lot of<br>
bureaucracy on the Happy Valley-Goose Bay side, and then a several month<br>
wait for the LWG to review. I don't think Anatolijs would want that.<br>
<br>
Given the size of the town and the severe budget constraints, you might<br>
have more luck suggesting to the town that allowing the road data to be<br>
imported to OSM would be a real value proposition. There are permission<br>
request letters here:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Import/<wbr>GettingPermission</a> . The<br>
town's response to that would be an important thing to include in the<br>
import wiki page.<br>
<br>
There's a (slim) possibility that the town's data, being derived from<br>
Worldview 2 data, may not able to be licensed under an open licence. Is<br>
there anything in the data agreement between the town and Worldview<br>
regarding data rights?<br>
<br>
As long as the town is amenable and the licence isn't horrible, the OSM<br>
import process described here isn't too onerous:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Import/Guidelines</a><br>
There have been several notes to the OSM Imports list¹ from municipal<br>
GIS techs who want to do the same as you, and as long as there's a wiki<br>
page and permission from the town granted, it goes ahead smoothly.<br>
<br>
(and even if everything goes sideways, there's a lot you can do with a<br>
vehicle and a GPS that sidesteps licensing completely …)<br>
<br>
Really pleased that you want to do this, Anatolijs!<br>
<br>
Best Wishes,<br>
Stewart<br>
<br>
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¹: <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/listinfo/imports</a><br>
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> On 3 Apr 2017 12:33 pm, "Anatolijs Venovcevs"<br>
> <<a href="mailto:gistech@happyvalley-goosebay.com">gistech@happyvalley-goosebay.<wbr>com</a><br>
</span>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gistech@happyvalley-goosebay.com">gistech@happyvalley-<wbr>goosebay.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hello everyone,____<br>
><br>
> __ __<br>
<span class="">><br>
> I’ve been a longtime fan of Open Street Map but this is the first<br>
> time I ever decided to help contribute to it. I am the GIS<br>
> technologist for the Town of Happy Valley-Goose Bay in Newfoundland<br>
> and Labrador, Canada -<br>
> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/53.3085/-60.3463" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>#map=14/53.3085/-60.3463</a><br>
</span>> <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/53.3085/-60.3463" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/#map=14/53.3085/-60.3463</a>>_<wbr>___<br>
><br>
> ____<br>
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> It’s a small, isolated community of approximately 8,100 people and<br>
> I’m the only one with any GIS training and experience. As a result,<br>
> I’m responsible for doing just about everything to assist the town<br>
> in geospatial-related functions and have a very tight budget and not<br>
> a lot of time to them. One of the things there’s been a real<br>
> interest in is developing some sort of a basic interactive web map<br>
> for the town’s public information (zoning, water and sewer lines,<br>
> attractions for our tourist map, etc.). I’m planning on using QGIS<br>
</span>> plugin qgis2web to do that and use an OpenStreetMap background.____<br>
><br>
> ____<br>
<span class="">><br>
> Before I can do that, OpenStreetMap data for the town needs to be<br>
> updated. It looks to me approximately five years out of date and the<br>
> town has been experiencing a major boom in the last few years.<br>
> Currently, the town has possession of an updated street centerline<br>
> network (digitized from 40 cm resolution orthorectified Worldview 2<br>
> satellite imagery) and an up-to-date civic number system with<br>
> building footprints and parcels for recreational spaces and etc.<br>
> coming later this year. I’d like to share them with the OSM<br>
</span>> community.____<br>
><br>
> __ __<br>
<span class="">><br>
> Before I do that, I’m looking for community buy-in for the project.<br>
> I will start with manually adding the new streets that have been<br>
> built over the last few years and correct any information within the<br>
> town boundaries that no longer represents reality on the ground. If<br>
> that’s ok with all of you, I’d like to make the OSM web mapping for<br>
</span>> my corner of Canada a little better.____<br>
><br>
> ____<br>
><br>
> Thank you,____<br>
><br>
> __ __<br>
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