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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bonjour all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Concerning Canvec data and multipolygon relations,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The problem of multipolygon relations having the feature tag also associated with the outer ring may appear over all multipolygon relations (water, wood, whatever…)
and on all currently available version of the Canvec product (6-10).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">However, using the example provided by Stewart, I have not been able to reproduce the problem with the latest version of FME so the writer must have been corrected
since. According to FME’s documentation “the multipolygon relation that is written out follows the rules and examples described in
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon</a>.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Consequently, if a new version of Canvec is ever made available, I expect it should respect the OSM schema, at least on this aspect. In any case, one must conform
to the general imports rules and to what has been said about Canvec data on this list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Daniel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Begin Daniel [mailto:jfd553@hotmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 3 July, 2017 16:00<br>
<b>To:</b> Alan Richards; Stewart C. Russell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Stewart sent me an example I can use
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Daniel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Begin Daniel [<a href="mailto:jfd553@hotmail.com">mailto:jfd553@hotmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 3 July, 2017 09:53<br>
<b>To:</b> Alan Richards; Stewart C. Russell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If someone could provide me with an example of a relatively small, untouched multipolygon imported directly from Canvec having the problem, I could make some
tests and sent it to FME to have their translator corrected if I can reproduce the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Daniel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Alan Richards [<a href="mailto:alarobric@gmail.com">mailto:alarobric@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 3 July, 2017 00:51<br>
<b>To:</b> Stewart C. Russell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for a good workflow - I cleared up 8 so far pretty quickly around Hope, BC. There's a bunch in a cluster around Merritt too. I'm guessing it's certain imports or import authors vs others that makes the difference.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">alarobric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Stewart C. Russell <<a href="mailto:scruss@gmail.com" target="_blank">scruss@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 2017-07-02 04:41 PM, Begin Daniel wrote:<br>
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> However, since the same translator was used for all the polygons, the<br>
> problem should also appear on water bodies, etc. The problem may have<br>
> been related to the complexity of the polygons to convert.<br>
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Hi Daniel - yes, I'm seeing a bunch of water relations with the same<br>
problem, such as on the Grand River<br>
<<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/576317" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/576317</a>> and also parts of the<br>
Speed near Guelph. Some of these data were imported from Canvec 10.<br>
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> I also found that JOSM had similar problems with tag transfers a few<br>
> years ago (1). Maybe some of the problems found result from merging<br>
> nearby wooded areas?<br>
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> Daniel<br>
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> (1) <a href="https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/9832" target="_blank">https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/9832</a>.<br>
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Interesting, but I'm seeing a lot of the problem water relations<br>
worldwide (well, Scotland and Germany) where JOSM wasn't involved. So<br>
while the JOSM issue might have contributed a little, there were other<br>
factors in play. Indeed, I've even seen changesets (such as 5735148 from<br>
Sep 2010) where the editor had to duplicate the relation tag in the<br>
outer way to get the inner features to render!<br>
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cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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