<div dir="auto">And as a local chapter new comers could suggest/view tasks to work on. Kind of like what we did for Fort Mac.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A centralized communication hub would enable us to move forward and concentrate our efforts(small remote villages for example)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 28, 2017 12:12 PM, "Matthew Darwin" <<a href="mailto:matthew@mdarwin.ca">matthew@mdarwin.ca</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Brian,</p>
    <p>In my view we definitely need OSMCanada to go beyond the big
      cities.  It is not "Canada" if we don't.<br>
    </p>
    <p>In my view the main things that a collection of people cannot do
      on their own are:</p>
    <p>1) Have a bank account.  There are groups that would give and
      organization money to do things around OSM. You can't just give
      money to an individual.   Also might need to look into charitable
      status later on so people could give donations and get a tax
      receipt (more paperwor overhead for that)<br>
    </p>
    <p>2) Look into getting money from the feds.  There have been
      announcements about Feds making money available for Smart Cities
      and related activities, for sure money cannot go to individuals. 
      I am waiting to see the details on what they are going to fund.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Monies received could go towards meetups/hosting costs (which
      people pay out of their own pocket now) as well as "hiring" people
      to work on specific projects which normally they would not spend
      time on.... or maybe travel costs to go do a survey in an area
      which needs help, but has no expert mappers. or more training
      activities for folks. I could also see an educational component
      whereas it would be great to have people go into highschool civic
      classes and do a session on OSM.</p>
    <p>3) The Building Canada 2020 project needs some leadership to make
      things happen.  Having an organization helping to drive that would
      make that easier.</p>
    <p>4) There are things that some folks across the country have done
      to improve their area of the map... would be good to share
      practices more broadly, in a Canadian context.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Of course all of these can be done in a private organization (eg
      like Mapbox), but I feel that building an organization to
      represent the broader community would be more beneficial in the
      long run.<br>
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    <p>My 2c.<br>
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    On 2017-09-28 08:19 AM, Brian Bancroft wrote:<br>
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          Matthew,</div>
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        <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width:100%;padding:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> It seems like an
          interesting idea. I've been travelling a bit lately, and I've
          found there's a lot of people out there who don't know about
          OSM where the platform is exactly what they need.</div>
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          a robust OSMCanada spread the Gospel beyond the cities? Would
          it seek to incorporate local GIS imports on the map with legal
          support and task management?</div>
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          we know what an incorporated OSMCanada would do that the
          informal association of really nice and diligent people can't
          do on their own?</div>
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          won't be making SoTMUS this year, but I'd love to hear more
          about what your aims are with this venture, and the problems
          you and others believe (or know) it would solve through
          incorporation and (possibly?)  sweet government handouts. I'm
          guessing that these are the questions you want to crunch out
          while you're at the gathering of interesting people.</div>
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          wishes and good luck with this endeavour,</div>
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                  <div id="m_8209857234493263116sent"><b>Sent:</b> September 28, 2017 7:06 AM</div>
                  <div id="m_8209857234493263116to"><b>To:</b> <a class="m_8209857234493263116moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:scruss@gmail.com" target="_blank">scruss@gmail.com</a></div>
                  <div id="m_8209857234493263116cc"><b>Cc:</b> <a class="m_8209857234493263116moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a></div>
                  <div id="m_8209857234493263116subject"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-ca] OSM
                    Canada & State of the Map US: Oct 20-22</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'verdana',sans-serif;font-size:small">I hadn't heard of them and I'm
            in Ottawa but there again I'm not very sociable.  I question
            why such a decision would be made out of the country?</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'verdana',sans-serif;font-size:small">Does it matter if someone
            creates a not for profit Canadian corporation? I think it
            would have to change its name though there have been
            discussions recently about the use of OSM in names.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'verdana',sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio John<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 27 September 2017 at 21:59,
            Stewart C. Russell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scruss@gmail.com" target="_blank">scruss@gmail.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              2017-09-27 05:49 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote:<br>
              > Hi,<br>
              ><br>
              > Are any Canadian folks going to State of the Map US
              October 20-22<br>
              > <a href="https://2017.stateofthemap.us/" target="_blank">https://2017.stateofthemap.us/</a><br>
              <br>
              Nope. Wish I could afford it.<br>
              <br>
              > During the conference, I would like to have a
              discussion about turning<br>
              > the informal <a href="https://www.osmcanada.ca/" target="_blank">https://www.osmcanada.ca/</a>
              into a not-for-profit Canadian<br>
              > corporation.<br>
              <br>
              I'd be opposed. Who are osmcanada? They don't represent
              me. Last I heard<br>
              it was an informal group of mappers in Ottawa. What would
              the non-profit<br>
              do? How would it justify its status? Would it be
              attempting to be an<br>
              OSMF Chapter?<br>
              <br>
               Stewart<br>
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