<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div>Malheureusement John, il y a eu pire comme problèmes de qualité pour l'ouragan Matthews. </div><div><br></div><div>Pouratant, on prétendait supporter une urgence, puis une fois les medias ailleurs, on arrête les mapathons et on laisse les problèmes. De là mon article sur HOT qui disait que c'était une cause oubliée.<br></div><div class="ydp335b20dcsignature"><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"> <br><font face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </font><br></span></div></div>
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Le mercredi 18 octobre 2017 18:31:19 HAE, john whelan <jwhelan0112@gmail.com> a écrit :
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<div><div id="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">I completely agree with Pierre on this one. Especially if its going to involve more than one University.</div><div class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">In Ottawa we imported the building outlines first through opendata. Then new mappers can just add tags. Just as a reminder here are some buildings mapped in Africa probably in a maperthon and its not untypical.<br clear="none"></div><div class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.jatws.org/johnw/building3.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.jatws.org/johnw/building3.jpg</a></div><div class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">I don't think we have the resources to clean up the map afterwards. This is a project that Stats is interested in to sell the data. There have been some conversations about the use of paid mappers this might be an appropriate use for them. I'm not even sure we have enough resources to have an experienced iD OSM mapper at each location where they will be mapping and ideally it should be two.</div><div class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Cheerio John<br clear="none"></div></div><div class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_quote">On 18 October 2017 at 16:21, Matthew Darwin <span dir="ltr"><<a shape="rect" href="mailto:matthew@mdarwin.ca" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">matthew@mdarwin.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="ydpf25be1f5yiv5903681732gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<p>If we want to have a bunch of new to OSM people map things, I
would suggest that these is a <b>physical location</b> with <b>experts
presen</b><b>t</b>. As we see with the Carleton University
example (not uOttawa), it's hard to get new folks on board... i
would guess that although there was training provided to Carleton
Students, it was done as a lecture rather than a lab.</p>
<p>I was introduced to OSM mapping by joining a meetup, getting an
intro and then everyone sitting around one big table (experts and
new folks) with their laptops and start working through whatever
the project was. It lasted 2-3 hours. I thought it worked well,
and could start working through things on my own after, but still
asking questions of experts. I still made mistakes, but having
experts sitting in the same room to ask questions was invaluable
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<div>Il y a d'autres priorités que les immeubles et je ne suis
pas convaincu que l'objectif Immeubles 2020 proposé par des
partenaires doit être endossé par la communauté OSM-Canada.<br clear="none">
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<div>Encore plus que le monde rural, il y a tout le nord à
cartographier. Puis les divers projets de Mapathon on
montré que de grandes vagues de nouveaux contributeurs
arrivent rapidement, cartographient souvent sans la
précision et la qualité nécessaire et quittent après
souvent une seule soirée de participation.</div>
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<div>L'objectif de tels mapathons doit être repensé. Il doit
viser à initer et former des nouveaux contributeurs.
L'exemple de l'université d'Ottawa nous montre comment ces
groupes ont besoin de support. Il ne s'agit pas de faire
de la publicité et les convaincre de démarrer des projets.
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<div>En Haiti, lors de l'ouragan Matthews en octobre 2016
des vagues déferlantes de contributeurs ont laissé pendant
deux semaines des vagues déferlantes de mauvaises données.
Personne ensuite pour réparer.</div>
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<div>Vite, vite, repensons cette approche.</div>
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<div> Le mercredi 18 octobre 2017 15:38:19 HAE, Stewart C.
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