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    <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hi John,</font></p>
    <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">The Ottawa cycling
        group is working on a "Level of Traffic Stress" map which is
        different than this.  This is because, my understanding, is that
        the City of Ottawa (for better or worse) uses LTS as their
        official way of measuring how they're doing on cycling
        infrastructure.  If you want the city to make changes, you need
        to talk their language.<br>
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    <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">However, I think ultimately,
        "bikeability" is where the Ottawa team wants to get to.   I've
        heard it mentioned that the existing work is meant to identify
        important gaps in the cycling network.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Too bad we couldn't collaborate
        better across the country on cycling activities.   Is there a
        national organization focused on cycling?</font><br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="70">Matthew Darwin
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:matthew@mdarwin.ca">matthew@mdarwin.ca</a>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-12-23 09:30 AM, john whelan
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I think
          the OSM article uses a variety of inputs.<br>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><a
href="https://urbandatacyclist.wordpress.com/2017/12/12/visualizing-the-bikeability-of-san-franciscos-roads/"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://urbandatacyclist.wordpress.com/2017/12/12/visualizing-the-bikeability-of-san-franciscos-roads/</a></div>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">It
          looks as if some work has been done in Vancouver.<br>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">It
          needs thinking through and combining both OpenStreetMap data
          and other sources.</div>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">"Bikeability:
          The term bikeability refers to the level of interaction
          between factors of the built and natural environments
          associated with the demand for cycling including
          infrastructure, slope, land use (destinations), and
          connectivity. This definition was derived from <a
            href="http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1068/b38185"
            moz-do-not-send="true">this study</a>."</div>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Note
          it's not only cycle paths etc but destinations and other
          information. <br>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">The
          cycling organisations might understand it better.  I think
          also the City of Ottawa has a person or group who promotes
          cycling and it might be worth involving them.<br>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio
          John<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 23 December 2017 at 09:06, James <span
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              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">james2432@gmail.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="auto">You mean like we've been doing for
              kitchissippi ward?
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              <div dir="auto"><a
                  href="http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/84"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/<wbr>project/84</a><br>
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              <div dir="auto">Other wards need same sort of tagging</div>
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                  <div class="h5">On Dec 23, 2017 8:24 AM, "john whelan"
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                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Within
                          weeklyosm there is a article on bikability.  I
                          am aware that some mappers in Ottawa are
                          working with the local cycle groups,could
                          something be done for Ottawa?<br>
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                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><a
href="http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/9805/" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/arc<wbr>hives/9805/</a></div>
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                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks
                          John<br>
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