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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps the Open Government Partnership folks should consider posting a wiki on the common open data license that they are promoting. </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:talk-ca-request@openstreetmap.org">talk-ca-request@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, March 3, 2018 8:41 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Talk-ca Digest, Vol 121, Issue 9</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Send Talk-ca mailing list submissions to</p><p class=MsoNormal> talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit</p><p class=MsoNormal> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</p><p class=MsoNormal>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to</p><p class=MsoNormal> talk-ca-request@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>You can reach the person managing the list at</p><p class=MsoNormal> talk-ca-owner@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific</p><p class=MsoNormal>than "Re: Contents of Talk-ca digest..."</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Today's Topics:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> 1. Brandon licensing (john whelan)</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Message: 1</p><p class=MsoNormal>Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 08:40:35 -0500</p><p class=MsoNormal>From: john whelan <jwhelan0112@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>To: keith hartley <keith.a.hartley@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>Subject: [Talk-ca] Brandon licensing</p><p class=MsoNormal>Message-ID:</p><p class=MsoNormal> <CAJ-Ex1GSO6kx0QGfbR15JxyKJNRGeWux0L-usWsfsX+VbK85mA@mail.gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> This brings me to the conclusion after all these discussions something</p><p class=MsoNormal>similar to what SteveA-2009 mentioned. Instead of having OSM conform to</p><p class=MsoNormal>these licenses, would be be able to get the governing bodies to conform to</p><p class=MsoNormal>OSM? In many cases, I'm working with my colleges in the GIS community to</p><p class=MsoNormal>borrow data, if we could give them a "guideline to a OSM request" document</p><p class=MsoNormal>or something we might be able to leverage a ton of data we wouldn't already</p><p class=MsoNormal>have. I think this is one of the main motivators behind building 2020. That</p><p class=MsoNormal>a lot of this data is accessable-ish, opening it would only help add better</p><p class=MsoNormal>data to OSM. (keeping in mind quality, applicability ect)</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It's better if you get them to use the Treasury Board Open Data licence.</p><p class=MsoNormal>TB has a kit for municipalities and I understand the licence is included.</p><p class=MsoNormal>The advantage is other organisations can use the open data. If you use</p><p class=MsoNormal>something OSM specific then someone lese might run into the same problem.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheerio John</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On 2 March 2018 at 23:53, keith hartley <keith.a.hartley@gmail.com> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Thanks everyone for your info!</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> I'm not the biggest fan of mail newsgroups cause responding in a</p><p class=MsoNormal>> comprehensive way is hard if you're working for a few days.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Scruff - thanks for the insight on the license, would explicit permission</p><p class=MsoNormal>> from them for this project work? or does the license null it? It's supposed</p><p class=MsoNormal>> to be based off the national open data license but is highly modified.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Jonathan good note! I think if we tag different areas of the city - we can</p><p class=MsoNormal>> attribute things more effectively.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Also - I was thinking of adding info to the already built buildings using</p><p class=MsoNormal>> the City of Brandons info, I wasn't sure of the data use in this case.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Based on what Scruff said, don't use at all!</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Street complete is a great app! I Was looking at using something like that</p><p class=MsoNormal>> or paper! I didn't have the best of luck with Vespucci.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> This brings me to the conclusion after all these discussions something</p><p class=MsoNormal>> similar to what SteveA-2009 mentioned. Instead of having OSM conform to</p><p class=MsoNormal>> these licenses, would be be able to get the governing bodies to conform to</p><p class=MsoNormal>> OSM? In many cases, I'm working with my colleges in the GIS community to</p><p class=MsoNormal>> borrow data, if we could give them a "guideline to a OSM request" document</p><p class=MsoNormal>> or something we might be able to leverage a ton of data we wouldn't already</p><p class=MsoNormal>> have. I think this is one of the main motivators behind building 2020. That</p><p class=MsoNormal>> a lot of this data is accessable-ish, opening it would only help add better</p><p class=MsoNormal>> data to OSM. (keeping in mind quality, applicability ect)</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> I'll add more tomorrow.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Keith</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:45 AM, <talk-ca-request@openstreetmap.org> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Send Talk-ca mailing list submissions to</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> talk-ca-request@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> You can reach the person managing the list at</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> talk-ca-owner@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> than "Re: Contents of Talk-ca digest..."</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Today's Topics:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> 1. Re: Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> (Stewart C. Russell)</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> 2. Re: BC2020i Mapathon Event (Jonathan Brown)</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> 3. Re: Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> (john whelan)</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> 4. Re: Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> (Frederik Ramm)</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> 5. Building_Canada_2020 (john whelan)</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Message: 1</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:07:07 -0500</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> From: "Stewart C. Russell" <scruss@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> work</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Message-ID: <6d2d0e5d-8d9d-d528-c08e-05ee9debea58@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> On 2018-02-28 11:59 AM, James wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > Before Scruss comes out and says it:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> … thanks, James! Been busy with the new job.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > After license is approved …</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> I'm not a lawyer, but the Brandon licence looks especially troublesome.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> It's not based on any other licence I've seen. Most worryingly, it</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> requires that the person using/importing the data on behalf of a legal</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> entity has the capacity to legally bind that entity.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> In short, it means that if we import the Brandon data, we agree that we</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> have the legal capacity to respond to anything that Brandon could choose</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> to throw at us. Not one of us has that.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Stewart</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Message: 2</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 09:25:54 -0500</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> From: Jonathan Brown <jonabrow@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> To: James <james2432@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Cc: Rob Halko <Rob.Halko@durham.ca>, "Brock Baker</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> <brock_baker@kprdsb.ca>" <brock_baker@kprdsb.ca>,</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> "sarah.rice@durham.ca" <sarah.rice@durham.ca>, Talk-CA</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> OpenStreetMap</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i Mapathon Event</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Message-ID: <5a980d72.9e0f6b0a.2477f.2c6f@mx.google.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Got it. Thanks, James. On another note, we are still looking for 8-10</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> facilitators for our March 29 mapathon in Durham Region. I approached the</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Toronto OSM and will follow-up with them at their next Meetup on Monday. I</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> also let the Peterborough chapter of GoGeomatics. The challenge is that the</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> colleges had a lengthy strike in the fall and have no time to participate</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> in extra-curricular activities this year.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Jonathan</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> From: James</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 5:36 AM</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> To: Jonathan Brown</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap; Rob Halko; Sterling Quinn</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i Mapathon Event</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> one impotant take away from past experiences is to tell them not to map</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> the same element twice. For example, someone else maps it first, dont add</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> it on top as well(duplicate item mapping)</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> -------------- next part --------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachment</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> s/20180301/913c2cf5/attachment-0001.html></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Message: 3</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 10:00:16 -0500</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> From: john whelan <jwhelan0112@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> To: keith hartley <keith.a.hartley@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> work</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Message-ID:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> <CAJ-Ex1FXq6QqcyZ5vrnMgU2HAOqMB-nPAud-00TsDtKX1n5vQg@mail.gm</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Looking at Brandon in OpenStreetMap many buildings are mapped but there</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> isn't much detail.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Stats was after things like the number of levels, house number, street</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> name, is the building commerical, residential, apartment. There are some</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> 70 or 80 different tags used for buildings in taginfo. At the bit of</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Brandon I looked at there were only two values used. It was also after</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> amenties such as cafes etc.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> These are all things that can be added with tools such as street complete.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Because you are adding tags to enrich the existing data you are unlikely</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> to</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> to draw a building in the wrong place.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> I'd go after enriching the existing data first before thinking of</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> importing</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> more buildings.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Cheerio John</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> On 28 February 2018 at 10:31, keith hartley <keith.a.hartley@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > Hi OSM'ers</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > I am working on adding buildings to OSM in Manitoba and have a few</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > questions. I was just offered an updated building footprint and address</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > shape file from the City of Brandon, and agreement that it can be used</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> in</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > OSM. I understand that the license needs to be compliant with the OSMs</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> of</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > course, and will email the licensing group. The City uses a open data</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > license similar to Ottawa's (can be seen here</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > http://opengov.brandon.ca/terms.aspx) I can get written consent in an</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > email if need be as well. Currently the buildings are from the Manitoba</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > land initiative website (MLI) and I can see that the city of Brandon</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Data</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > is much more accurate (in both attributes and position) I will review</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> the</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > current data. Is there anything else I should be doing before I upload</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > this?</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > The plan is to have high school students look at the map and using</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> walking</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > maps or equivalent data capture (android app) to find what is accessible</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > for people with mobility issues around their schools. I'll write the</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > results on a wiki to show our successes. Anyone else have good ideas</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> how to</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > get students to add to the map? (with teacher oversight of course!)</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > Cheers,</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > Keith</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > _______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > Talk-ca mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> -------------- next part --------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachment</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> s/20180301/a900fcbf/attachment-0001.html></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Message: 4</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 16:06:36 +0100</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> From: Frederik Ramm <frederik@remote.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> work</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Message-ID: <76ffc609-20d9-b6d2-31d5-bdb6c33171ef@remote.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Hi,</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> On 01.03.2018 16:00, john whelan wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > These are all things that can be added with tools such as street</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > complete. Because you are adding tags to enrich the existing data you</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > are unlikely to to draw a building in the wrong place.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > I'd go after enriching the existing data first before thinking of</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> > importing more buildings.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> My thinking here would be: 90% of the value of what you produce will be</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> in the surveyed stuff - as John said, number of levels, type of building</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> etc.; what he didn't mention but what certainly could also be</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> interesting to some is the 3D modeling tags like roof shape information</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> which will make the building look nicer on 3D maps.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> If 90% of the value is in the "handmade" stuff anyway, why even depend</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> on an import for the remaining 10% - isn't there aerial imagery from</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> which you can trace the building? With proper tooling this is quick and</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> painless, and a student who has actually "drawn" the houses will feel</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> much more pride in the resulting map as one who has simply taken</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> existing data and uploaded it to OSM. One is a creative task, the other</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> just data mangling. I'm pretty sure students would warm more to the</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> creative task.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Best</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Frederik</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> --</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Frederik Ramm ## eMail frederik@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Message: 5</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 10:45:01 -0500</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> From: john whelan <jwhelan0112@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Subject: [Talk-ca] Building_Canada_2020</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Message-ID:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> <CAJ-Ex1HZyLnZy189pQ4C2ZS9CAwiCywx+qf7fN-q2XAaW-NQ5w@mail.gm</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> The wiki talks about grand ideas.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Build</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ing_Canada_2020</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> But what it doesn't do is give examples of how to enrich the building</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> outlines.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> When I spoke to Stats Canada it was the enrichment that was the most</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> valuable How many churches are there? How many apartment buildings? How</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> many levels (floors)? How many care homes etc. WiFi available? Website?</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> I'd think in terms of streetcomplete an android app for filling a lot of</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> these gaps but there are other software packages around such as Vespucci</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> on</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> android, iD on whatever iD runs on. JOSM but you need someone present who</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> knows it. It is excpetionally useful for accurately drawing building</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> outlines though.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> I don't know what school students at various grades are capable of.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> I think the wiki page would be more useful if it listed what enriching</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> details would be useful and how to tag them.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> I would suspect that printing out a map with the buildings on it so notes</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> could be made in the field might be useful.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Thoughts?</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Anyone with some expertise about what works for a mapathon with students?</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Thanks John</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> -------------- next part --------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachment</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> s/20180301/5fd0b54a/attachment.html></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Subject: Digest Footer</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> _______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Talk-ca mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>> End of Talk-ca Digest, Vol 121, Issue 5</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ***************************************</p><p class=MsoNormal>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> _______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Talk-ca mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-------------- next part --------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</p><p class=MsoNormal>URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachments/20180303/424056e1/attachment.html></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Subject: Digest Footer</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>Talk-ca mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>End of Talk-ca Digest, Vol 121, Issue 9</p><p class=MsoNormal>***************************************</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>