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<div class="moz-text-html" lang="x-western"> On 2018-03-26 07:20 AM,
Olivia Robu - (p) wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Telenav Map team has done some
research on the status of the ways and relations of
Trans-Canada Highway. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here are some conclusions from this
research: </p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1">The
highway is formed from 30 routes;</li>
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The Trans-Canada highway is not really 1 highway, so this is
probably not surprising. In many places, the Trans-Canada
highway splits in 2, so probably cannot have 1 route anyway.<br>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1">Every
route has different names for the name tag, such as:
street names, other routes names or Trans-Canada highway
name in different forms;</li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1">The
issue above is repeating for the ref tag;</li>
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IMO the routes and the refs need to match, or the refs need to be
removed given that routes should supersede refs. In my
investigations in Ontario I see lots of places where routes and
refs don't match.<br>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1">The
name of Trans-Canada highway has more than one form
(Trans-Canada Highway, TransCanada Highway, Trans Canada
Highway, etc);</li>
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Probably good to standardize that. However, in Quebec I would
think the French name would take precedence. "<i>Route
Transcanadienne"</i><br>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1">Another
issue is the variety of names in other tags related to it
(such as: name:en, name:fr, alt_name, alt_name:en,
alt_name:fr, nat_name);</li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1">There
are some routes that don’t have a route name only ref (5
routes);</li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1">There
are some routes that overlap:
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo1">in
Manitoba: - PTH 1 (MB Trans-Canada Highway) and
Trans-Canada Highway (Super);</li>
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- Yellowhead Highway and PTH 16 (MB Trans-Canada Highway);</p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo1">in
Alberta: Trans-Canada Highway (AB) and Trans-Canada
Highway (Super);</li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level2 lfo1">in
British Columbia: - Trans-Canada Highway (BC, Super) and
Trans-Canada Highway;</li>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">About
90% of these routes are broken;</li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">About
80% of these routes have highway value flip flop
(motorway, trunk, primary);</li>
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Highway 17 in Ontario is not a motorway. So I would expect
different segments to be different. Highway 417 (motorway)
changes to Highway 17 (trunk) just west of Arnprior Ontario. This
is correct. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:18.0pt">We propose to
make some improvements to standardize all the routes. We
would like to get your thoughts and feedback on the
following questions:</p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">What
is the correct form for the name that appears in the way
name tag? For example: “Highway 417” is part of
Trans-Canada Highway and has the name value tag “Highway
417”. To resolve this issue, we would need to standardize
the ways’ name tag for all the provinces. The question is,
should we modify the way names in to “Trans-Canada
Highway”, or should we insert the name “Trans-Canada
Highway” at the end of the name, like this: “Highway 417
(Trans-Canada Highway)”, or should we leave it like it is?
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No, definitely not.<br>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Another
issue is related to the official name of the highway.
According to our research the official name for
Trans-Canada Highway is “Trans-Canada Highway”. In our
research we have found several forms of this name:
TransCanada Highway, Trans Canada Highway, etc. Should we
change all the names to “Trans-Canada Highway”?</li>
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In Quebec probably "<i>Route Transcanadienne"</i>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4">Another
question is related to the priority of the names in the
name value tag and also for the ref tag. If we have a way
that has a street name (“Old Highway 16” or “North York
River Road”) and two routes that overlap (ex: Trans-Canada
Highway and Highway 11). What is the name and the ref that
should appear in the way name tag and ref tag? </li>
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Highway 11. Local road first.<br>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4">In
case of overlapping identical routes (ex: in Manitoba
there is two routes for Trans-Canada Highway). What should
be the best approach?</li>
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The Trans-Canada Highway has multiple routes. It is not one
highway. The graphic on wikipedia, probably shows this clearly. <a
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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Canada_Highway">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Canada_Highway</a><br>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4">In
case of highway value flip flop (motorway, trunk,
primary), there are several segments like this outside the
cities (ex.: Route “Ontario Highway 17 (Blind River to
North Bay) (ID 3739829)”, or Route “Trans Canada Highway
104” (ID 1732797)). For areas outside the cities we
propose to change the highway value into motorway/trunk.
What do you think about this issue?</li>
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If it is really a motorway, yes. But many places outside of
cities it is not a motorway.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We think that one approach to resolve the
first problem could be to add “Trans-Canada Highway” or
“Highway 417 (Trans-Canada Highway)” to the way name for all
the routes, and the ref number correspondent to each route
that forms the Trans-Canada Highway.</p>
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You could add an alt_name or similar tag.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We look forward to hearing your feedback
and hope to improve the situation together.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is the link to github ticket that we
created: <a
href="https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/57">
https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/57</a> </p>
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Highway 17 just west of Arnprior has the following tags, which
looks correct to me:<br>
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alt_name=Trans-Canada Highway<br>
highway=trunk<br>
lanes=2<br>
name=Highway 17<br>
ref=17<br>
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Please note some sections of this route will have multiple
alt_names. Eg the 401 between Trenton and Toronto will have:<br>
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- Highway 401 (primary name)<br>
- Trans-Canada Highway<br>
- Macdonald-Cartier Freeway<br>
- Highway of Heroes<br>
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Although I see the existing tags are inconsistent here.<br>
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