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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Great overview of OSM and tools for working with the data. How could this open data that includes school latitude and longitude be used for a building mapping project in OSM? </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>School Information and Student Demographics . <span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="https://www.ontario.ca/data/school-information-and-student-demographics">https://www.ontario.ca/data/school-information-and-student-demographics</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jonathan</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr">Pierre Béland</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:28 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:jonabrow@gmail.com">Jonathan Brown</a>; <a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com">John Whelan</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org">Talk-CA OpenStreetMap</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 and School Mappers</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><a href="http://jakobmiksch.eu/post/openstreetmap_overview/" target="_blank">http://jakobmiksch.eu/post/openstreetmap_overview/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0000BF'> <br></span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#0000BF'>Pierre </span></i></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="ydpcce31c65yahoo_quoted_3119125118"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Le samedi 24 novembre 2018 10 h 24 min 06 s HNE, John Whelan <jwhelan0112@gmail.com> a écrit : <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="http://teachosm.org/en/" target="_blank">http://teachosm.org/en/</a><br><br>Might be of some use.<br><br>Cheerio John<br><br>Jonathan Brown wrote on 2018-11-22 7:45 PM:<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div id=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211yqt91507><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Alessandro had some engineering profs from the University of Rome working with a local high school for testing the mobile app used for BC2020. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Here’s a</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="http://ec.europa.eu/education/programmes/llp/structure/comenius_en.html" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>Comenius</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> program for </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="http://ec.europa.eu/education/lifelong-learning-programme/doc78_en.htm" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>Life Long Learning</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> of the </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="http://europa.eu/index_en.htm" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>European Union</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> EU. The official title of the project is: "To boost local and international tourism with OpenStreetMap". The project's acronym is: "BoostOSM" </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Life_Long_Learning_Mapping_Project" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Life_Long_Learning_Mapping_Project</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">John Whelan</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, November 22, 2018 7:08 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:jonabrow@gmail.com" target="_blank">Jonathan Brown</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-CA OpenStreetMap</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: BC2020 and School Mappers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>I hadn't thought about the programming side but C# certainly can be useful.<br><br><a href="https://www.jatws.org/openstreetmap/openstreetmap.html" target="_blank">https://www.jatws.org/openstreetmap/openstreetmap.html</a><br><br>It needs visual studio 2017 but it has a sample program from which other programs looking for other things could be written.<br><br>I think that would be high school level though.<br><br>There has been some work in creating activities for schools in OSM but they would need chasing down.<br><br>Cheerio John<br><br>Jonathan Brown wrote on 2018-11-22 6:33 PM:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Climate change planning would be good. That topic could be linked to the UN sustainable development goals. Also, in Ontario there is a big need to incorporate math skills into learning by doing (e.g., <a href="http://www.barbareeduke.com/ccmath/mathactivities.htm" target="_blank">http://www.barbareeduke.com/ccmath/mathactivities.htm</a> (adapted for OSM), or for postsecondary </span><span class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msohyperlink><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="https://www.gislounge.com/learning-programming-for-gis/" target="_blank">GIS and programming</a></span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> for computer science courses.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>At CivicTech Toronto Meetup last Tuesday someone pointed out David MacKay’s book Sustainable Energy: Without Hot Air <a href="https://withouthotair.com/" target="_blank">https://withouthotair.com/</a> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Jonathan </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">john whelan</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, November 22, 2018 5:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:jonabrow@gmail.com" target="_blank">Jonathan Brown</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-CA OpenStreetMap</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 and School Mappers</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>So what do we need?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>A hook of some type to build on?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>An inventory of buildings for climate change planning? I understand in many cities some 80% of apartment buildings are forty years old now and identifying them and upgrading them would help with climate change emissions. Unfortunately they tend to be privately owned and coaxing landlords to invest money is not easy.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>An introduction to basic stats?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I'm not a teacher but I'm sure we can sort something out.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>We do have a tasking manager that covers Canada so tiles can be set up for a local area.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I suggest an import first then something after that.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Thoughts</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks John</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>On Thu, 22 Nov 2018, 5:22 pm Jonathan Brown <<a href="mailto:jonabrow@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonabrow@gmail.com</a> wrote:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204)'><div><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>“Should we try to tailor the information on Building 2020 towards inexperienced mappers to make it easier for schools etc to get involved?”</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Good idea, John. We need a process similar to HOT for local beginners and maybe a way of connecting the mapping to a sustainable development challenge in the community.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Jonathan </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-ca mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>-- </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Sent from <a href="https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach" target="_blank"><span style='color:#009DF7'>Postbox</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpcce31c65yiv0178689211msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Sent from <a href="https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach" target="_blank"><span style='color:#009DF7'>Postbox</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-ca mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>