<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi All, <br></div><div>For teaching high school I worked with Rob Langston (who just got the Canadian geographic award for teachers!) to find out what would A - be worth mapping and B- would fit into the curriculum of what they were going for. We went with mapping out what had wheel chair accessibility for businesses in Brandon as it didn't require a lot of editing, was valuable info, and could easily be audited. We tried walking maps, but found it easier that each student edited 3 business. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I suggested using something like street complete for android, or OSMand for future edits if we wanted to expand. (or for university students) <br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, <br></div><div>Keith <br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:28 AM <<a href="mailto:talk-ca-request@openstreetmap.org">talk-ca-request@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Talk-ca mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: BC2020 and School Mappers (John Whelan)<br>
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Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 10:23:31 -0500<br>
From: John Whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Jonathan Brown <<a href="mailto:jonabrow@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonabrow@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 and School Mappers<br>
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Might be of some use.<br>
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Cheerio John<br>
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Jonathan Brown wrote on 2018-11-22 7:45 PM:<br>
><br>
> Alessandro had some engineering profs from the University of Rome <br>
> working with a local high school for testing the mobile app used for <br>
> BC2020.<br>
><br>
> Here’s aComenius <br>
> <<a href="http://ec.europa.eu/education/programmes/llp/structure/comenius_en.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ec.europa.eu/education/programmes/llp/structure/comenius_en.html</a>>program <br>
> for Life Long Learning <br>
> <<a href="http://ec.europa.eu/education/lifelong-learning-programme/doc78_en.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ec.europa.eu/education/lifelong-learning-programme/doc78_en.htm</a>>of <br>
> the European Union <<a href="http://europa.eu/index_en.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://europa.eu/index_en.htm</a>>EU. The official <br>
> title of the project is: "To boost local and international tourism <br>
> with OpenStreetMap". The project's acronym is: "BoostOSM" <br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Life_Long_Learning_Mapping_Project" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Life_Long_Learning_Mapping_Project</a><br>
><br>
> Jonathan<br>
><br>
> *From: *John Whelan <mailto:<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>><br>
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 22, 2018 7:08 PM<br>
> *To: *Jonathan Brown <mailto:<a href="mailto:jonabrow@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonabrow@gmail.com</a>><br>
> *Cc: *Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
> *Subject: *Re: BC2020 and School Mappers<br>
><br>
> I hadn't thought about the programming side but C# certainly can be <br>
> useful.<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.jatws.org/openstreetmap/openstreetmap.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.jatws.org/openstreetmap/openstreetmap.html</a><br>
><br>
> It needs visual studio 2017 but it has a sample program from which <br>
> other programs looking for other things could be written.<br>
><br>
> I think that would be high school level though.<br>
><br>
> There has been some work in creating activities for schools in OSM but <br>
> they would need chasing down.<br>
><br>
> Cheerio John<br>
><br>
> Jonathan Brown wrote on 2018-11-22 6:33 PM:<br>
><br>
> Climate change planning would be good. That topic could be linked<br>
> to the UN sustainable development goals. Also, in Ontario there is<br>
> a big need to incorporate math skills into learning by doing<br>
> (e.g., <a href="http://www.barbareeduke.com/ccmath/mathactivities.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.barbareeduke.com/ccmath/mathactivities.htm</a><br>
> (adapted for OSM), or for postsecondary GIS and programming<br>
> <<a href="https://www.gislounge.com/learning-programming-for-gis/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.gislounge.com/learning-programming-for-gis/</a>>for<br>
> computer science courses.<br>
><br>
> At CivicTech Toronto Meetup last Tuesday someone pointed out David<br>
> MacKay’s book Sustainable Energy: Without Hot Air<br>
> <a href="https://withouthotair.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://withouthotair.com/</a><br>
><br>
> Jonathan<br>
><br>
> *From: *john whelan <mailto:<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>><br>
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 22, 2018 5:46 PM<br>
> *To: *Jonathan Brown <mailto:<a href="mailto:jonabrow@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonabrow@gmail.com</a>><br>
> *Cc: *Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 and School Mappers<br>
><br>
> So what do we need?<br>
><br>
> A hook of some type to build on?<br>
><br>
> An inventory of buildings for climate change planning? I<br>
> understand in many cities some 80% of apartment buildings are<br>
> forty years old now and identifying them and upgrading them would<br>
> help with climate change emissions. Unfortunately they tend to be<br>
> privately owned and coaxing landlords to invest money is not easy.<br>
><br>
> An introduction to basic stats?<br>
><br>
> I'm not a teacher but I'm sure we can sort something out.<br>
><br>
> We do have a tasking manager that covers Canada so tiles can be<br>
> set up for a local area.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I suggest an import first then something after that.<br>
><br>
> Thoughts<br>
><br>
> Thanks John<br>
><br>
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2018, 5:22 pm Jonathan Brown <<a href="mailto:jonabrow@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonabrow@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jonabrow@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonabrow@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> “Should we try to tailor the information on Building 2020<br>
> towards inexperienced mappers to make it easier for schools<br>
> etc to get involved?”<br>
><br>
> Good idea, John. We need a process similar to HOT for local<br>
> beginners and maybe a way of connecting the mapping to a<br>
> sustainable development challenge in the community.<br>
><br>
> Jonathan<br>
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Le samedi 24 novembre 2018 10 h 24 min 06 s HNE, John Whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> a écrit : <br>
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Might be of some use.<br>
<br>
Cheerio John<br>
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Jonathan Brown wrote on 2018-11-22 7:45 PM:<br>
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<br>
Alessandro had some engineering profs from the University of Rome working with a local high school for testing the mobile app used for BC2020. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Here’s a Comenius program for Life Long Learning of the European Union EU. The official title of the project is: "To boost local and international tourism with OpenStreetMap". The project's acronym is: "BoostOSM" <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Life_Long_Learning_Mapping_Project" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Life_Long_Learning_Mapping_Project</a> <br>
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Jonathan<br>
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From: John Whelan<br>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 7:08 PM<br>
To: Jonathan Brown<br>
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap<br>
Subject: Re: BC2020 and School Mappers<br>
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<br>
I hadn't thought about the programming side but C# certainly can be useful.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.jatws.org/openstreetmap/openstreetmap.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.jatws.org/openstreetmap/openstreetmap.html</a><br>
<br>
It needs visual studio 2017 but it has a sample program from which other programs looking for other things could be written.<br>
<br>
I think that would be high school level though.<br>
<br>
There has been some work in creating activities for schools in OSM but they would need chasing down.<br>
<br>
Cheerio John<br>
<br>
Jonathan Brown wrote on 2018-11-22 6:33 PM:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Climate change planning would be good. That topic could be linked to the UN sustainable development goals. Also, in Ontario there is a big need to incorporate math skills into learning by doing (e.g., <a href="http://www.barbareeduke.com/ccmath/mathactivities.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.barbareeduke.com/ccmath/mathactivities.htm</a> (adapted for OSM), or for postsecondary GIS and programming for computer science courses.<br>
<br>
At CivicTech Toronto Meetup last Tuesday someone pointed out David MacKay’s book Sustainable Energy: Without Hot Air <a href="https://withouthotair.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://withouthotair.com/</a> <br>
<br>
Jonathan <br>
<br>
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From: john whelan<br>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 5:46 PM<br>
To: Jonathan Brown<br>
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap<br>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 and School Mappers<br>
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<br>
<br>
So what do we need?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
A hook of some type to build on?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
An inventory of buildings for climate change planning? I understand in many cities some 80% of apartment buildings are forty years old now and identifying them and upgrading them would help with climate change emissions. Unfortunately they tend to be privately owned and coaxing landlords to invest money is not easy.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
An introduction to basic stats?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I'm not a teacher but I'm sure we can sort something out.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
We do have a tasking manager that covers Canada so tiles can be set up for a local area.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I suggest an import first then something after that.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thoughts<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks John<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018, 5:22 pm Jonathan Brown <<a href="mailto:jonabrow@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonabrow@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
“Should we try to tailor the information on Building 2020 towards inexperienced mappers to make it easier for schools etc to get involved?”<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Good idea, John. We need a process similar to HOT for local beginners and maybe a way of connecting the mapping to a sustainable development challenge in the community.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Jonathan <br>
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