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12pt;font-family: Verdana;">I agree and we are sensitive to Quebec's
position.<br><br>I think the hope was we would make the data available
and that local mappers would be involved in the import over time as
happens with CANVEC. One comment I heard early on was this isn't so
much an import as a marathon.<br><br>What seems to have happened is a
lot of buildings have been imported very quickly. In rural areas or
places where there are few buildings this isn't so much of a problem.
Certain locations have run in very smoothly.<br><br>I think the data
quality is considerably better than iD and Mapathons with new mappers.<br><br>The
original data files are available on an Open Data portal with a license
that is compatible with OSM and to be honest we have very little
control over who can download them or what they do with them.<br><br>What
we do have is a process that was used in Ottawa and is fairly robust.
Data quality is very dependent on the individual mappers doing the
import though.<br><br>Looking at the stats I don't think much has been
done in Quebec and I feel James would be happy to restrict access Quebec
in someway if that would make you happier for the moment. It has been
set up as a separate set of tiles so can be isolated fairly easily. <br><br>Could
you be nice and chat to the Quebec mappers and sound them out on what
they would like to do? The data for Quebec is from Quebec
municipalities by the way. Please bear in mind that Microsoft are
rumoured to be about to release building data for Canada in the same way
as they have for the US. This is scanned from images data and I
suspect the data quality will not be as high as the Municipal data. I
understand there are multiple imports going on with the US Microsoft
building outline data currently.<br><br>I seem to recall that Daniel
Begin, who I believe is a Quebec mapper, made comments on the project in
talk-ca some time ago. I also seem to recall it was his suggestion
that we made it a single import plan. <br><br>Thoughts?<br><br>Thanks
John<br><br><span>Pierre Béland wrote on 2019-01-18 6:54 PM:</span><br><blockquote
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helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div>John,</div><div><br></div><div>Il
y a local et local. Compte-tenu des différences culturelles Québec vs
Canada en général et que les contributeurs du Québec ne fréquentent
pratiquement pas cette liste, vous ne devriez pas prendre pour acquis
que vous représentez cette communauté et pouvez démarrer des projets en
son nom.</div><div><br></div><div class="ydp5f312821signature"><span
style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"> <br><font
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Le vendredi 18 janvier 2019 13 h 11 min 37 s HNE,
john whelan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com"><jwhelan0112@gmail.com></a> a écrit :
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style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">I know of no
other way to contact him but he made an interesting comment that the
project is on hold in the wiki pending review.</div><div
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style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Would he care
to comment on who is supposed to be reviewing the project?</div><div
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style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">My
understanding is that the import was raised in talk-ca before it
commenced for comment and these were generally favourable. I took that
as the local mappers to Canada had been consulted and they are the
"local mappers" authority in this case.</div><div
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style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">I understand he
has concerns about local mappers making decisions but in Canada we have
been importing similar data through CANVEC for some time. CANVEC data
comes from a number of sources including municipal data.</div><div
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style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Is he
suggesting that each of the 3,700 municipalities in Canada should form a
group of local mappers who can make individual decisions on whether
their municipal data should be imported and we should end up with 3,700
import plans?</div><div class="ydp5e48fcbbyiv7594689456gmail_default"
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style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Thanks John</div><div
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