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<p>Hi John, <br>
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<p>As Steve has said, you seem to be the only one suggesting that
thousands of import committees might need to be formed. Certainly
I'm not suggesting that.</p>
<p>My understanding of OSM import procedure (and wiki-style projects
more generally) is that imports should operate in an essentially
consensual way where possible. The goal is to build consent and
bring people on board with a project or a change by addressing
their concerns in a meaningful and respectful way. <br>
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<p>I think that I have made some substantive and troubling claims
about the quality of the data being imported. I've pointed out
that this project has not followed the import procedures that were
produced by a community of mappers larger than just those in
Canada. <br>
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<p>So to respond to your implication, I am in some sense the one
reviewing the project, just as I would welcome you to find ways
that my own contributions could be better. If you want my
credentials for reviewing your work, here they are:</p>
<p>1) I am an active contributor to OSM in Toronto, where I live
(and elsewhere)<br>
</p>
<p>2) I am currently helping to lead a building import in Hamilton
County Ohio that has better addressed some of the issues I see
this import struggling with. I can help you do the same.<br>
</p>
<p>3) I've been doing research in GIS for a long time now, though I
don't need that to tell you that the issues I've described are
hardly insurmountable technically or even all that difficult to
fix. It would take maybe one day's hard work to get the technical
side of this right. <br>
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<p> I think Canadian OSMers will agree that we can take a pause to
get things right on such a massive import. If they don't - if I'm
shouted down or better, if my critiques are adequately addressed,
then I will leave you to finish the project in peace. I might even
lend a hand if all goes well, as I sincerely hope it does :-)</p>
<p>Best,<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-signature">Nate Wessel<br>
<span style="font-size:10px;color:#777">Jack of all trades, Master
of Geography, PhD candidate in Urban Planning<br>
<a href="http://natewessel.com">NateWessel.com</a></span>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/18/19 1:11 PM, john whelan wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I know
of no other way to contact him but he made an interesting
comment that the project is on hold in the wiki pending
review.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Would
he care to comment on who is supposed to be reviewing the
project?</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">My
understanding is that the import was raised in talk-ca before
it commenced for comment and these were generally favourable.
I took that as the local mappers to Canada had been consulted
and they are the "local mappers" authority in this case.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
understand he has concerns about local mappers making
decisions but in Canada we have been importing similar data
through CANVEC for some time. CANVEC data comes from a number
of sources including municipal data.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Is he
suggesting that each of the 3,700 municipalities in Canada
should form a group of local mappers who can make individual
decisions on whether their municipal data should be imported
and we should end up with 3,700 import plans?</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks
John</div>
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