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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I’m eager to become a regular participant and contributor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> John Whelan <jwhelan0112@gmail.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 30, 2019 8:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nate Wessel <bike756@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm glad to see Toronto getting involved once more.<br>
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The original idea for using Open Data to import buildings followed on from a group of Toronto mappers who imported address information for a new sub division that was not available in CANVEC from Stats Canada after very carefully checking that the licenses
etc aligned.<br>
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There was discussion in Talk-ca at the time before the import was done.<br>
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Cheerio John<br>
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Nate Wessel wrote on 2019-09-30 12:14 AM:<br>
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<p>Thanks for posting the event! I just RSVPed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I think a separate import event would probably be helpful - somewhere with wifi and outlets for laptops, probably not a bar. Perhaps we can book a meeting room at a public library or something?
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<p>I can poll some of the more active local editors to find a time that works well for people. Once we have a time and place it would be good to post something to the meetup group as well as here, Slack, etc.
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<p>If you or anyone else on the list feels like taking charge of this I'm happy to defer - otherwise I may try to organize something in the next month or so as I have time and energy.
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<p>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Nate Wessel<span style="font-size:7.5pt">, PhD<br>
Planner, Cartographer, Transport Nerd<br>
<a href="http://www.natewessel.com"><span style="text-decoration:none">NateWessel.com</span></a></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2019-09-28 6:37 p.m., Steve Singer wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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I for one would be happy to support a local effort to import high quality buildings in Toronto and/or the GTA. I
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think if we can actually meet up face to face our discussions may remain a bit more civil and productive. Hopefully
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consensus will be a bit easier to achieve with smaller groups too! <br>
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I see that the OSM Toronto meetup doesn't have any upcoming events... Would others in the GTA be interested in
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planning a meet up to talk about a local import plan? Is anyone on the list in charge of organizing these?
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I am one of the organizers of the OSM Toronto meetup. <br>
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I've now posted the regular monthly mappy hour meetup for the Toronto OSM group. I had been meaning to do this anyway.
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I'm also happy to post a special event dedicated to discussing an import in the GTA if people are interested.
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Best, <br>
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Nate Wessel, PhD <br>
Planner, Cartographer, Transport Nerd <br>
NateWessel.com <br>
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On 2019-09-28 1:03 p.m., Jarek Piórkowski wrote: <br>
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Hi all, <br>
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To be a bit more positive: <br>
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If we want to get buildings on the map, but we can't get Canada-wide <br>
data improved by Statcan to a standard acceptable to all mappers in <br>
Canada, IMO the best bet will be to split this into much smaller <br>
batches and support local mappers who would be interested in getting <br>
the data in. <br>
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In my browsing of neis-one.org statistics for Canadian mappers and the <br>
Notes active in Canada, I've seen active mappers and small communities <br>
in at least Halifax, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, and Victoria <br>
metros, and I might have missed some more. Many of them I have never <br>
seen on the mailing list (which is a whole another issue), but <br>
contacting them directly (via osm.org messages?), asking if they are <br>
aware of other local mappers, if they would be interested in having <br>
building data, if it is of acceptable standard to them, and if they <br>
would be willing to help validate-and-upload the data (with help of <br>
the central tooling) might get some success. <br>
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I hope that will go better than the previous attempt which could be <br>
read - uncharitably - as a bunch of mailing list insiders throwing <br>
federal data over the fence with little consultation. <br>
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It'll be a lot of work communicating and organizing. But getting <br>
buildings is a lot of work, and if data producers can't do better, <br>
whoever wants the buildings will have to do the work. Maybe with more <br>
local support even the imports list will be more bearable. <br>
<br>
Thanks, <br>
--Jarek <br>
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