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</head><body text="#000000">I seem to recall the case was dropped as
well. Having sad that I think the best way forward is <br>
<br>
" The number one request on <a href="http://open.canada.ca"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">open.canada.ca</a> is to
open the postal code database. Feel free to add your vote. <a
href="https://open.canada.ca/en/suggested-datasets" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.canada.ca/en/suggested-datasets</a>"<br>
<br>
and also add in a building that has a missing postcode.<br>
<br>
For example I'm not sure a commitment from the "<span style="display:
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" to make them Open Data should mean we all vote for this party. I
think current MPs are too busy with the election at the moment.</span><br>
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Cheerio John<br>
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<div dir="auto">funny you should mention <a href="http://geocoder.ca"
moz-do-not-send="true">geocoder.ca</a> <div dir="auto"><br></div><div
dir="auto">The owner of that website was sued by Canada Post because he
was crowd sourcing postal codes. Just recently (2 ish years ago?) they
dropped the lawsuit because they knew they didnt have a case(He came to
the Ottawa meetups a couple of times)</div></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed.,
Oct. 2, 2019, 8:08 p.m. Jarek Piórkowski, <<a
href="mailto:jarek@piorkowski.ca" moz-do-not-send="true">jarek@piorkowski.ca</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yeah, Canada Post
currently considers postal codes their commercial<br>
data. Crowd-sourcing all or a substantial amount of full codes seems<br>
infeasible. Crowd-sourcing the forward sortation areas (the first A1A)<br>
seems difficult since verifiability is going to be a problem<br>
especially around the edges of the areas.<br>
<br>
The website OpenStreetMap.org returns results for some postal codes<br>
from a third-party database <a href="https://geocoder.ca/?terms=1"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://geocoder.ca/?terms=1</a>
which is not<br>
ODbL-compatible either.<br>
<br>
Partial mapping is causing some problems with tools like Nominatim<br>
that attach the nearest tagged postcode to search results, often<br>
resulting in improper postal codes for reverse address lookups,<br>
however that is arguably a tooling problem and not an OSM problem per<br>
se.<br>
<br>
This isn't going to be pretty until Canada Post is persuaded to free<br>
the data. Call your MP, everybody.<br>
<br>
--Jarek<br>
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 17:38, john whelan <<a
href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> " The number one request on <a href="http://open.canada.ca"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">open.canada.ca</a>
is to open the postal code database. Feel free to add your vote. <a
href="https://open.canada.ca/en/suggested-datasets" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://open.canada.ca/en/suggested-datasets</a>"<br>
><br>
> Cheerio John<br>
><br>
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 13:32, john whelan <<a
href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On the import mailing list there is a proposal to import
postcodes in the UK one of the reasons given was that many like to input
a postcode to get directions on smartphones using things like OSMand.<br>
>><br>
>> I don't think an Open Data source with the correct licensing is
available in Canada but OSMand appears to be able to use the postcode
if it is entered in the map as part of the address. Is there any Open
Data that might be useful?<br>
>><br>
>> I don't know if it is possible but could something be used to
extract postcodes in the current map and from there perhaps we could
come up with a list of missing postcodes that need one address with it
in mapped?<br>
>><br>
>> As a minimum if you could add a few in you know from local
knowledge that might help fill in some gaps.<br>
>><br>
>> Thoughts<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks John<br>
><br>
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