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then I think it should be explicitly tagged.<br>
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The reason why we were asked to add them is for pedestrian security
assessment and urban planning. When all sidewalks and crossing are
mapped, we can measure crossing distances and estimate the probability
of accidents, which can save lives when the cities add curb extensions
(avancées de trottoirs). We use openstreetmap data to convince
government officials that it is statistically better to take them into
account when planning new neighbourhoods or enhance existing ones. Also,
it allows us to get better precision and calculate penalties when
routiong at traffic signals which must be crossed twice by pedestrian at
some intersections. OpenStreetMap objective is to map what is there
with the best precision available. When aerial photography was not
precise enough for sidewalks, it was not feasible to add them, but now
we get precise aerial photos that permit better representativity of the
physical world. I can tell you that the amount of precision and
completeness in openstreetmap data will increase rapidly in the coming
years. And the COVID-19 pandemy will increase the need for precise and
complete mapping of urban environments, so we must deal with it
accordingly.
<div class="">Mapping sidewalks as separate ways is now in the
official wiki and has been accepted by the community by vote, so we must
now find the best way to accomodate everyone. For now, I am just trying
to know if we must add bicycle=no to them.</div>
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<div class="">About the routing directions, we must add the street
names to sidewalks (as we do in my team), otherwise like Martin said,
routing engines will tell people to turn left, turn right instead of
turn left on A street, then turn right on B street, etc.</div>
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Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:17 AM Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca <<a
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap:
break-word;" class=""><div class="">What cities allow cycling on
sidewalks anyway, seriously ? This sounds so inadequate. That it is
tolerated is one thing, but outright legal or encouraged ? Makes no
sense to me.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class="">In the
US that's pretty common. For example here in Madison (Wisconsin),
sidewalk riding is generally allowed by ordinance, except where
buildings directly abut the sidewalk (I manually tag those as
bicycle=no).</div><div class=""> Harald.<br class=""></div></div></div>
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