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Cheerio John<br>
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<span>Julian Loke wrote on 5/10/2021 8:35 PM:</span><br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Exit_Info#Canada">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Exit_Info#Canada</a>
The wiki recommends as best practice the use of "node and way" tagging
Several examples from Canada with accompanying photos of the signage demonstrate the use of
ref= on the node, with destination= and destination:ref= and junction:ref on the way.
Sincerely
Julian Loke
On May 10, 2021 3:19:15 p.m. PDT, Andrew Deng via Talk-ca <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org"><talk-ca@openstreetmap.org></a> wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Ontario is like California when it comes to signing exit numbers; it's
very inconsistent. Some freeways do not have exit numbers at all
(Highway 409, Highway 427 although it's getting them very soon), and a
lot of them did not have any until very recently like the Gardiner and
DVP. This is why we refer to exits by their names.
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Andrew
On Monday, May 10, 2021, 06:05:59 p.m. EDT, Jherome Miguel
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com"><jheromemiguel@gmail.com></a> wrote:
It's not only a problem in 400-series highway, Toronto expressway and
Quebec autoroute exits. I have also seen "names" on interchanges and
right-in, right-outs on other Ontario highways like Highway 11 between
Barrie and North Bay, and Highway 115 between Newcastle and
Peterborough, as well as other freeway and expressway-grade roads
elsewhere (e.g. part of Highbury Ave connecting with the 401 in London,
the Red Hill Valley Parkway around Hamilton).
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:46 PM Jherome Miguel
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com"><jheromemiguel@gmail.com></a> wrote:
Yes, those "names" are largely map clutter especially in urban areas
and where multiple values are used. There is no problem with navigation
instructions, and it's becoming clear "names" are mostly an attempt to
make exit destinations visible at the expense of other information,
especially at closer zoom levels.
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:04 PM Pierre Béland <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr"><pierzenh@yahoo.fr></a>
wrote:
Jherome,
Si je compares l'autoroute 417 vers Ottawa, j'observe les même
conventions qu'au Québec pour numéroter les sorties en km à partir du
début de l'autoroute (Frontière du Québec pour la 417). L'ajout du nom
sur la node de la sortie est de toute évidence pour le rendu, mais au
détriment de tous les autres éléments. Cela rend difficile de repérer
le no. de sortie et en milieu urbain ces noms de lieux encombrent la
carte rendant illisible le reste.
Lorsque je donne des instructions à quelqu'un je donne toujours les
instructions
1. le no. de sortie ( node highway motorway_junction )
2. ensuite suivre en direction de tel lieu ou route ( chemin highway
motorway_link, destination ... )
Et c'est ce que font les outils de navigation. Ils indiquent d'abord le
no. de sortie ( node highway motorway_junction) et ensuite le nom de la
destination sur bretelle de sortie, là où doivent apparaitre les noms
( chemin highway motorway_link ).
Pierre
Le lundi 10 mai 2021 14 h 55 min 48 s UTC−4, Jherome Miguel
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com"><jheromemiguel@gmail.com></a> a écrit :
It may not be a tagging for the renderer issue, but it also has
something to do with Ontarians saying “(road name) exit” instead of
“exit (number)” as in Western Canada. Don't know how do Québécois refer
to autoroute exits.
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