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</head><body text="#000000">An electronic search for 401 will probably
not find ON401.<br>
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End users tend to like reliability. They tend to use notes or
documentation on how to do things. If you make the changes then it
takes about a year for all the databases to get updated. For example
OSMAND takes a copy every month or so, many users don't update their off
line copies very often so for a period of time the documentation has to
cater to two different ways of tagging to avoid confusion. <br>
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Then you get to the You-tube instructions that just mention use OSM and
look for 401. Try getting a four year old you-tube updated and that is
an example of documentation. It took more than twenty years to get one
of my aunts to change the address she used when sending me a Christmas
card. Each year Canada Post would tag it incorrectly addressed. The
house hadn't moved just Canada Post had changed the official address for
it ten years after it was built but getting her to change was a major
effort.<br>
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I think Stats Canada thinks that 25% of the population is functionally
illiterate, it is higher in some provinces. Functionally illiterate
people are usually better with numbers than a mixture.<br>
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Numbers are normally language agnostic. Once you start adding letters
you add complexity.<br>
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My smartphone doesn't correct numbers but put a letter in there and life
gets interesting. Do an electronic search for something and it will
capitalise the first letter and put the rest in lower case and that's
before it starts to substitute what it thinks I should have typed.<br>
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Not all provinces have treaties for land with the natives. For example
putting BC on a highway that runs across native land might be be a touch
insensitive at the moment.<br>
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I'm not sure what the advantages would be and whether it would be worth
the costs involved in making a change.<br>
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Cheerio John<br>
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<div>I’ve been considering a major change to the way we tag highway
ref= values, trying to follow the lead with our neighbours stateside.<div
dir="auto">Currently practice has been to use bare route numbers except
in Manitoba, where the number is preceded by PTH, PR or Route depending
on type of route; for the data user’s end, the rendered shield is
generally dependent on the tagged classification of the road (mostly
tied to the road’s official classification by the provincial or
territorial transportation ministry), the province or territory, and the
network tag in the route’s relation.<br></div><div dir="auto"><div
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The proposal for route numbers is,
by type of road:</div><div dir="auto">- For provincial and territorial
highways, add province/territory postal abbreviation before number (e.g.
AB 2 for Alberta Highway 2, ON 401 for Ontario Highway 401, BC 5 for BC
Highway 5, NS 101 for Nova Scotia Highway 5), except perhaps Manitoba
provincial highways (can keep ref=* with PTH for provincial trunk
highways including the Trans-Canada and the Yellowhead, and PR for
provincial roads). This includes routes with special shields different
from provincial or territorial towns standard designs (e.g. the
TransCan, BC Highway 5 as the South Yellowhead, the Mackenzie Highway).
The QEW will remain as it is. For highways forming the TransCan, it can
be tagged as a second ref= value, as TCH.</div><div dir="auto">- For
Ontario regional and county roads, add CR or RR before number depending
on the type of municipality the road is in.</div><div dir="auto">- For
Toronto expressways (the Gardiner, the Allen, the DVP), there will be no
changes.</div><div dir="auto">- For Winnipeg city routes, there will be
no changes.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Any further
ideas? Comments?</div></div>
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