<div dir="auto">the wiki is wrong and outdate, canvec is still going on, it's only recommended by highly knowledgeable users as you dont upload garbage for someone to fix it later</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 5:40 AM OSM <<a href="mailto:OSM@tomtom.com">OSM@tomtom.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Hi James,<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Indeed, you are right that adding such a plugin to JOSM might work well, although there is always the Osmose rule (<a href="http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/issues/open?item=1170&source=&class=1&username=&bbox=" target="_blank" style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/issues/open?item=1170&source=&class=1&username=&bbox=</a>)
which logs this violation.<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">For now, we are not able to implement this, because it would require a slightly different approach and knowledge base from our team.<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">We were under the impression that CanVec imports were no longer initiated because according to the wiki (<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#CanVec_10" target="_blank" style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#CanVec_10</a>),
the last import was done 10 years ago. Do you think regular CanVec imports are still planned in the (near) future?<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Meanwhile, to fix the current map state, we will continue our bot run as of Monday 31st.<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Kind regards,<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Paulina<u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 11:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSM <<a href="mailto:OSM@tomtom.com" target="_blank">OSM@tomtom.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <<a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-ca] [bot] Proposal to fix issue with duplicated inner polygons in Canada<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would be awesome to incorporate this into a josm plugin for future canvec importing: it's the main reason I stopped<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 5:45 AM OSM <<a href="mailto:OSM@tomtom.com" target="_blank">OSM@tomtom.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello everyone,<br>
</span><span lang="FR">Bonjour à tous,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Here is our updated bot logic:
</span><a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FAutomated_edits%2FTTmechanicalupdates%2FFix_issue_with_duplicated_inner_polygons_in_Canada%23Phase_2_3&data=04%7C01%7COSM%40tomtom.com%7C9531b8ff7af54868583008d9e183024b%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637788775074440384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=yj9zAVldOQ5vT%2F7muFPoJ6gsRSuBehBIvbEdHJVXtUI%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/TTmechanicalupdates/Fix_issue_with_duplicated_inner_polygons_in_Canada#Phase_2_3</span></a><span lang="EN-US">
and an updated bot code </span><a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftomtom-international%2Fosm-bots%2Ftree%2Fmain%2Fbot-double-inner-ring&data=04%7C01%7COSM%40tomtom.com%7C9531b8ff7af54868583008d9e183024b%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637788775074440384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=rZ2sjRXQay9gNgCE%2BBCKhkxOOR6rPo3k8vAaxabkRt4%3D&reserved=0" title="https://github.com/tomtom-international/osm-bots/tree/main/bot-double-inner-ring" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">https://github.com/tomtom-international/osm-bots/tree/main/bot-double-inner-ring</span></a><span lang="EN-US">.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">We'd like to plan to fix as many remaining cases as possible (in an automatic way). Our team is ready to start as of Monday 31 January.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN">D</span><span lang="FR">o not hesitate to reach out with questions or comments, we'll keep you updated with the progress!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">Best regards,<br>
Paulina</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> OSM <<a href="mailto:OSM@tomtom.com" target="_blank">OSM@tomtom.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 13, 2022 8:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <<a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Talk-ca] [bot] Proposal to fix issue with duplicated inner polygons in Canada</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello everyone,<br>
</span><span lang="FR">Bonjour à tous,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">We are happy to announce that the bot run, as initially planned and described on the wiki page, is completed!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">We managed to fix 393,411 incorrect cases in the whole of Canada. The full summary of this action can be found here:
<a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FAutomated_edits%2FTTmechanicalupdates%2FFix_issue_with_duplicated_inner_polygons_in_Canada%23Phase_1_details&data=04%7C01%7COSM%40tomtom.com%7C9531b8ff7af54868583008d9e183024b%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637788775074440384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=LmiLrQLqRC40Y74nvJz6jkW%2Bxl8aWAGeTQ2e41IihI0%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/TTmechanicalupdates/Fix_issue_with_duplicated_inner_polygons_in_Canada#Phase_1_details</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">Now we are analyzing cases where the geometry is more than doubled (e.g. tripled) or where data comes from a source other than CanVec. We see an opportunity to have
a second phase of the bot, to fix the majority of those cases as well. That will require fine-tuning of our code, which we expect to complete within the next 2-3 weeks.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">We will surely notify you once we are done with development. You can follow our wiki page, which is now updated with the newest findings
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https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/TTmechanicalupdates/Fix_issue_with_duplicated_inner_polygons_in_Canada</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">Best regards,<br>
Paulina.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> OSM <<a href="mailto:OSM@tomtom.com" target="_blank">OSM@tomtom.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 31, 2021 11:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <<a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Talk-ca] [bot] Proposal to fix issue with duplicated inner polygons in Canada</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Hello everyone,<br>
</span><span class="m_-7003747335389677203m9061916821005813319y2iqfc"><span lang="FR">Bonjour à tous,</span></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">With a great pleasure I would like to notify, that the bot is progressing very well and everything goes as expected.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Work is still ongoing, here you can find examples of changesets:<br>
</span><a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F115417002&data=04%7C01%7COSM%40tomtom.com%7C9531b8ff7af54868583008d9e183024b%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637788775074440384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=7u7XhIJGw63wFVxbkOzF%2FztokBf1bIYf%2FNUFot1ZP0A%3D&reserved=0" title="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/115417002" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/115417002</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><br>
</span><a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F115592147&data=04%7C01%7COSM%40tomtom.com%7C9531b8ff7af54868583008d9e183024b%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637788775074440384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=yuX2q8tmHwukT%2BL5rRhzxiHleQpBG9eeyK8OFEHswHI%3D&reserved=0" title="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/115592147" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/115592147</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><br>
</span><a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F115422442&data=04%7C01%7COSM%40tomtom.com%7C9531b8ff7af54868583008d9e183024b%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637788775074440384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=gXy5puXmZhGRP78%2FbZyR%2BUHRZAKIFO85HKt4C1EbQzw%3D&reserved=0" title="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/115422442" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/115422442</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">We will surely let you know once all the fixes are finished.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">We wish you all the best in the New Year!<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Paulina.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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