<div dir="auto"><div>Then you're probably suffering from programmers writing the web site optimised for something like Google Chrome. About 90% of the market is now Chrome or Edge which is Chrome under a different name. Even Firefox is down to single digits in market share so web sites are often only tested and optimised for the most common browsers.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Each browser has it's quirks and Apple tend to not follow standards anyway.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheerio John</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 23, 2022, 19:57 Martin Chalifoux <<a href="mailto:martin.chalifoux@icloud.com">martin.chalifoux@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">It now seems to be an issue with the latest release of Safari, which came last week. To test things I installed Firefox and I do not see the same issue with that browser. I will look further into it.<div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 23, 2022, at 7:40 PM, john whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="auto">The other thing it could be is your internet connection. From your machine to the server is probably a dozen hops any of which might be a weak point. The internet is not as robust as you might like as far as quality of service is concerned.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is your local connection from Rogers and is cable perhaps? If so you will be in contention with others and connections marked streaming or video conferencing will be given priority. DSL connections are usually more robust but if you have a neighbour who watches 4k video that could impact you. Also if you watch 4k video yourself then there is a risk your connection will be throttled to give others a chance.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Have fun</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheerio John</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 23, 2022, 19:28 Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca <<a href="mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It’s not about a specific location. It does it anywhere I look. If I zoom in or out the rendering does not keep up and seems to simply stop. The map have a bunch of gray areas or even is entirely gray and remains so for for minutes if not indefinitely. Refreshing the page does not fix it.<br>
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I spend the last week in Magog with a connection from Cogeco. I will check tomorrow when back in Montreal and on the Videotron network. Maybe it affects which OSM server I land onto.<br>
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> On Jul 23, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Justin Tracey <<a href="mailto:j2tracey@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">j2tracey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Can you give an example of a tile that isn't rendering? Make sure you're holding shift when mouse-clicking the refresh button to clear your browser's cache.<br>
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> On 2022-07-23 07:05, Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca wrote:<br>
>> Hi all, for a week or so the <a href="http://openstreetmap.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">openstreetmap.org</a> <<a href="http://openstreetmap.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://openstreetmap.org</a>> website and other apps that are using tiles from it, is very slow. Tiles takes very long to render and sometimes simply don’t (timeout I guess).I have a hard time figuring if this is an issue with my setup (MacOS, latest Safari) or issues with the servers that are perhaps overloaded or defective. I have in the past seen the occasional slowness but now it is just unusable. If I use another rendering engine such as <a href="https://www.osmap.fr/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osmap.fr</a> <<a href="https://www.osmap.fr/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osmap.fr</a>> or works fine, but that service has it own tiles and does nor rely on openstreetmap,org for rendering. Just let me know if the issues I see with the main OSM site are just mine or something that affect everybody. Thank you.<br>
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