<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Here is what I get. That is Chinese to me.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><h1 style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><a href="http://tile.openstreetmap.org" class="">tile.openstreetmap.org</a> debug</h1><h2 style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Server Stats</h2><p style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><b class="">Render Server</b>: <a href="http://nidhogg.openstreetmap.org" class="">nidhogg.openstreetmap.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Load Average</b>: 13.36</p><h2 style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">File Status</h2><div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><h2 style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Browser Request Headers</h2><p style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><b class="">CONTEXT_DOCUMENT_ROOT</b>: /srv/<a href="http://tile.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/" class="">tile.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/</a><br class=""><b class="">CONTEXT_PREFIX</b>: /cgi-bin/<br class=""><b class="">DOCUMENT_ROOT</b>: /srv/<a href="http://tile.openstreetmap.org/html" class="">tile.openstreetmap.org/html</a><br class=""><b class="">GATEWAY_INTERFACE</b>: CGI/1.1<br class=""><b class="">HTTPS</b>: on<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_ACCEPT</b>: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING</b>: gzip<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE</b>: en-CA,en-US;q=0.9,en;q=0.8<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_CDN_LOOP</b>: Fastly, Fastly<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_COOKIE</b>: _osm_totp_token=599284<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_FASTLY_CLIENT</b>: 1<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_FASTLY_FF</b>: ovFvuRB7uwtjLzzSaXilgD4YOKcBKgU1q8cIkdUMkC0=!YUL!cache-yul12822-YUL, ovFvuRB7uwtjLzzSaXilgD4YOKcBKgU1q8cIkdUMkC0=!YUL!cache-yul12833-YUL<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_FASTLY_ORIG_ACCEPT_ENCODING</b>: gzip, deflate, br<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_FASTLY_SSL</b>: 1<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_HOST</b>: <a href="http://tile.openstreetmap.org" class="">tile.openstreetmap.org</a><br class=""><b class="">HTTP_PRIORITY</b>: u=0, i<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_REFERER</b>: <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/" class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/</a><br class=""><b class="">HTTP_USER_AGENT</b>: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/15.6 Safari/605.1.15<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR</b>: 2607:fa49:7562:f600:a5f6:22e5:e34e:eb14<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_X_FORWARDED_HOST</b>: <a href="http://tile.openstreetmap.org" class="">tile.openstreetmap.org</a><br class=""><b class="">HTTP_X_FORWARDED_SERVER</b>: cache-yul12822-YUL<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_X_TIMER</b>: S1659371339.350145,VS0<br class=""><b class="">HTTP_X_VARNISH</b>: 2509237379, 169099285<br class=""><b class="">LC_CTYPE</b>: C.UTF-8<br class=""><b class="">PATH</b>: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin<br class=""><b class="">QUERY_STRING</b>: <br class=""><b class="">REMOTE_ADDR</b>: 2607:fa49:7562:f600:a5f6:22e5:e34e:eb14<br class=""><b class="">REMOTE_PORT</b>: 19366<br class=""><b class="">REQUEST_METHOD</b>: GET<br class=""><b class="">REQUEST_SCHEME</b>: https<br class=""><b class="">REQUEST_URI</b>: /cgi-bin/debug<br class=""><b class="">SCRIPT_FILENAME</b>: /srv/<a href="http://tile.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/debug" class="">tile.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/debug</a><br class=""><b class="">SCRIPT_NAME</b>: /cgi-bin/debug<br class=""><b class="">SCRIPT_URI</b>: <a href="https://tile.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/debug" class="">https://tile.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/debug</a><br class=""><b class="">SCRIPT_URL</b>: /cgi-bin/debug<br class=""><b class="">SERVER_ADDR</b>: 194.71.11.111<br class=""><b class="">SERVER_ADMIN</b>: <a href="mailto:webmaster@openstreetmap.org" class="">webmaster@openstreetmap.org</a><br class=""><b class="">SERVER_NAME</b>: <a href="http://tile.openstreetmap.org" class="">tile.openstreetmap.org</a><br class=""><b class="">SERVER_PORT</b>: 443<br class=""><b class="">SERVER_PROTOCOL</b>: HTTP/1.1<br class=""><b class="">SERVER_SIGNATURE</b>: </p><address style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Apache/2.4.54 (Ubuntu) Server at <a href="http://tile.openstreetmap.org" class="">tile.openstreetmap.org</a> Port 443</address><br style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><b style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">SERVER_SOFTWARE</b><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard; font-size: medium;" class="">: Apache/2.4.54 (Ubuntu)</span><br style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><b style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">SSL_TLS_SNI</b><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard; font-size: medium;" class="">: <a href="http://render.openstreetmap.org" class="">render.openstreetmap.org</a></span><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 31, 2022, at 9:48 PM, Paul Norman <<a href="mailto:osm@paulnorman.ca" class="">osm@paulnorman.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2022-07-26 8:54 a.m., Andy Townsend
      wrote:<br class="">
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/07/2022 16:37, Martin Chalifoux
        via Talk-ca wrote:<br class="">
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        For having played with the issue  I can report the following,
        not to make that thread drag forever.
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        <div class="">1. The issue is not that tiles are not
          computed/rendered on the server, they are rather not
          transferred/downloaded by the browser. The tiles simply stop
          coming. Only happen when browsing <a href="http://openstreetmap.org/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">openstreetmap.org</a>. <br class="">
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      </blockquote><p class="">Did you get a chance to look in the browser developer tools, as
        Paul suggested earlier?  <br class="">
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    </p><p class="">I asked for some information from the debug page in
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2022-July/010479.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2022-July/010479.html</a>,
      not the developer tools. Developer tools would have the same
      information, and more, but I don't know how to use them on Safari.<br class="">
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