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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Not sure if It could help, but the Alberta Register of Historic
Places use North, South, East, West, but for quadrant they use NE,
SE, SW and NW.</p>
<p>Ex: Lethbridge
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://hermis.alberta.ca/ARHP/Details.aspx?DeptID=1&ObjectID=4664-0426">https://hermis.alberta.ca/ARHP/Details.aspx?DeptID=1&ObjectID=4664-0426</a></p>
<p>Calgary:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://hermis.alberta.ca/ARHP/Details.aspx?DeptID=1&ObjectID=4665-0845">https://hermis.alberta.ca/ARHP/Details.aspx?DeptID=1&ObjectID=4665-0845</a></p>
<p>François Lambert<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 2022-12-15 à 19:13, Ian Bruseker a
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<div dir="ltr">Went right on the attack there, didn't ya? Sorry
I contribute nothing. But don't presume to know what I
think...</div>
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<div dir="ltr">"You agree that the ST should be Steet in OSM". I
in fact made no such statement. Didn't say a thing about how
street types should be stored in the database. I said "I'm
not saying it's the right way to do it" in the context of how
the two letter quadrant is in that database. I'm actually
agreeing with you, dude. As is the classic debate, this is a
renderer problem, so if you want anyone to actually use this
thing, then if it all gets changed to full word in the
database, the renderer better show it abbreviated, or no one
in Calgary would use it. That's my "I'm a local" opinion. Go
ahead, make your perfect database of perfect data all you
want, but it'll be a tree falling in the forest for all I care
if it's not actually useful.</div>
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<div>Ian</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at
16:44, Martin Chalifoux <<a
href="mailto:martin.chalifoux@icloud.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">martin.chalifoux@icloud.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div><span
style="font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium">OSM
tags and street signage usually don’ t match. Many town
use Rd and Blvd and such on their signage. Yet this is
not what we put in OSM for many good reasons. You add
nothing and repeat old arguments that I don’t buy into.</span>
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<div>Here is a small extract from the database you link
to. Street name: 24, Street type: ST, Street Quad: SE</div>
<div>You agree that the ST should be Steet in OSM yet you
get hung up on not using Southeast for SE. Our policy is
to avoid abbreviations and there is no reason to treat
TYPE and QUAD differently, they are both a
characterization fo the street name, which is “24”</div>
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<div>Could it be that this issue keeps coming back it
because some people insist on doing it wrong, so it
keeps coming back because it is never fixed.</div>
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<div>Cheers.</div>
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<div style="box-sizing:border-box">9895 24 ST
SE</div>
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<div style="box-sizing:border-box">ST</div>
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<div style="box-sizing:border-box">SE</div>
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<div style="box-sizing:border-box">9895</div>
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<div>On Dec 15, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Ian Bruseker <<a
href="mailto:ian.bruseker@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ian.bruseker@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">This is kinda interesting, seeing
all you people have a big long discussion about
how to map where I live. If you want me to go
out my door and take a picture of a street sign,
I'd be happy to. Street signs have NW, NE,
whatever on them, not the whole word, if they
have that at all. Small suburban
named roads don't generally seem to, I would
think because once you got that deep into a
neighbourhood, you already know you're in a
given quadrant so no point wasting ink to keep
telling you that on the sign. Someone earlier
said something along the lines of "according to
a friend of a friend who lives in Calgary..."
Well, I do live here. Ask your questions about
what this city does.
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